Ok, this is a pre-timeline discussion thread for my up coming project "Give Me Liberty or I'll Give You Revolution".
Things you can expect to see ITTL
. A Failed American Revolution
. No foreign intervention in ARW
. A Prophecy of Benjamin Franklin
. A Second War of Bavarian Succession
. A Delayed French Revolution
. A 2nd American Revolution
. A French Revolution and a 2nd American Revolution occuring simultaneously.
. A smaller British Empire.
. A Commonwealth of North America
. Lord Protector Andrew Jackson
The exact PoD I'm still working. I originally thought about having the Americans lose at the Battle of Saratoga, but I want to try and find a another less obvious PoD. A couple of the items on the expect to see list are gonna be a little difficult to get accomplished, which is why I posted this thread. I need a war for a War of Bavarian succession in 1799 to convern france enough for them to intervene. I was thinking that it would start as an Austro-Prussian conflict. Prussia appeals to Britain or Austria appeals to France, which drives the other(France or Britain) to intervene on the otherside. Eventually we get a 7 years war-esque style conflict in Europe, with a "Spanish and Indian" War in North America. This war is supposed to be part of the build up to the 2nd American Revolution, just as the French and Indian war helped lead to the 1st Revolution.
So what do all of you think so far? How can we get France to be concerned enough about events happening in Central Europe to get involved in a war of Bavarian succession? Are there any other topics you'ld like to see covered ITTL. I plan for this to be my most indepth timeline yet. Like many others I aim for the epicness of Look to the West but often fail, but hopefully aiming for the stars will allow me to land on the moon. Let's get it started.
Things you can expect to see ITTL
. A Failed American Revolution
. No foreign intervention in ARW
. A Prophecy of Benjamin Franklin
. A Second War of Bavarian Succession
. A Delayed French Revolution
. A 2nd American Revolution
. A French Revolution and a 2nd American Revolution occuring simultaneously.
. A smaller British Empire.
. A Commonwealth of North America
. Lord Protector Andrew Jackson
The exact PoD I'm still working. I originally thought about having the Americans lose at the Battle of Saratoga, but I want to try and find a another less obvious PoD. A couple of the items on the expect to see list are gonna be a little difficult to get accomplished, which is why I posted this thread. I need a war for a War of Bavarian succession in 1799 to convern france enough for them to intervene. I was thinking that it would start as an Austro-Prussian conflict. Prussia appeals to Britain or Austria appeals to France, which drives the other(France or Britain) to intervene on the otherside. Eventually we get a 7 years war-esque style conflict in Europe, with a "Spanish and Indian" War in North America. This war is supposed to be part of the build up to the 2nd American Revolution, just as the French and Indian war helped lead to the 1st Revolution.
So what do all of you think so far? How can we get France to be concerned enough about events happening in Central Europe to get involved in a war of Bavarian succession? Are there any other topics you'ld like to see covered ITTL. I plan for this to be my most indepth timeline yet. Like many others I aim for the epicness of Look to the West but often fail, but hopefully aiming for the stars will allow me to land on the moon. Let's get it started.