Geronimo : What if Osama Bin Laden was killed prior to 9/11?

Who will win the Republican Nomination?

  • Dick Cheney

    Votes: 46 19.6%
  • John McCain

    Votes: 139 59.1%
  • Jon Huntsman

    Votes: 31 13.2%
  • Rick Santorum

    Votes: 19 8.1%

  • Total voters
    235
here we go again, (grabs drink)

1. an alternate cod mw thats more like splinter cell or OG metal gear solid, now thats a game i would play (even if its not doom, unreal tournament or quake) still its an AU modern warfare thats trying to be less like doom or quake and more of its own thing (as long as they keep the doom, quake and unreal tournament community and even the wii crowd out of cod then everythings gonna be ok, cause sega is not a hardware maker (at least in TTL without being packaged in with other AUs) and im not putting up with games like knack, skylanders, pacman and the ghostly adventures, the last of us and the cancellation of megaman legends 3, silent hills, rockfish and 90s super gp again)

2. bioshock as expected (besides bioshock is just system shock 2 anyways but instead of a cyberpunk setting its steampunk)

3. of course youtube/webtube goes under ITTL (hopefully this will lead to more peertube sites in the future) it already looks like its happening with sites like that guy with the glasses, cinemassacre, newgrounds, and even custom geocities sites becoming the new norm ITTL

4. yay the iphone is a commercial failure, that means the new palm devices are gonna be even more like the palm pilots/handsprings/pocket pcs of the 90s and will be open source like OTLs palm os unlike android (plus no ipad kids or shitty mobile games like candy crush and angry birds, WOO HOO!) also love that image of the iphone taking a photo of the WTC

5. an AU spiderman 3 without the symbiotes, thats ok sonys venom handled the symbiotes way better IMO (with them being treated less like an emo virus and more like a dog thats attached to someones skin) also harry potter still exists meaning warrior cats confirmed

6. of course we get a new power rangers movie, power rangers is probally still popular with america still being cool like they were in the 90s

7. 1 man that samurai jack poster looks sick, hes even cooler than OTL
7.2 that image of the pixar characters leaving disney gives me vibes of that trailer that rare released where conker destroys the xbox logo when rare was bought by microsoft
7.3 hey even without farenhiet 9/11 michael moore is still a pretty cool guy (no matter what world we live in he always has a modern john lennon or a hippie version of larry the cable guy vibes)

8. there it is the start of the smaller 2008 recession, i pray that anime and fast paced edm music and the overall 90s aesthetic survives this (i aint gonna be forced to read homestuck or watch helluva boss like in OTL)
8.2 also americas megatalls confirmed as well

9. here it is the last of the REAL 90s shows ending, also love the AU madmen poster with the twin towers (it just feels more right imo)

10. hmm new internet music? vocaloid teaser maybe 👀 idk

11. and of course capping things off with some more nostalgic 2000s bops and songs i will never get to listen to (even before i had good taste in music this was the music i was into as its what aired on the radio and mtv/much music back then alongside being the main focus of albums like kidzbop and stations like radio disney)
also with this being the start of maroon 5s carrier im guessing this is the start of the millennials becoming yuppies
 
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They should have named it with "YouTube" instead of "WebTube"
Because the Web just an auxiliary tools, but "you" are the real power to keep things working and alive

RIP WebTube
 
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Great stuff!

A world where alt-YT and the iPhone both petered out in 2007 is one *very* different culturally and aesthetically from our own. Legacy media probably holds on much longer
No, iPhone still exists. Just like in OTL, it is criticized and the first version is quite poor in terms of functions.
 
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No Smosh
No ERB
No Rickroll, "Never Gonna Give You Up" just a classic catchy 80s song
No annoying orange
No iPad
No Siri
No mobile game

Good lord
Rick Astley will be amazing doesn't matter if he's a meme, Epic Rap Battles had its heyday but it is a better world with it existing.... maybe past its prime but that's just my opinion. Everything else can be lost to the time gods as far as I'm concerned lmao
 
3. of course youtube/webtube goes under ITTL (hopefully this will lead to more peertube sites in the future) it already looks like its happening with sites like that guy with the glasses, cinemassacre, newgrounds, and even custom geocities sites becoming the new norm ITTL

4. yay the iphone is a commercial failure, that means the new palm devices are gonna be even more like the palm pilots/handsprings/pocket pcs of the 90s and will be open source like OTLs palm os unlike android (plus no ipad kids or shitty mobile games like candy crush and angry birds, WOO HOO!) also love that image of the iphone taking a photo of the WTC
3. This would prevent the corporatization of the internet making the platform as it was in the late 90s to early 2000s. The only drawback is having to keep track of diffrent websites to follow your favorite content creators but it wouldn't be too bad but on the other hand no garbage like YouTube kids and MrBeast.

4. I don't think the IPhone's failure prevented the rise of Smartphones just delayed it by a few years.
 
2008 is going to be a make or break year for President Edwards. Will he save the economy and keep the 90s going into the 2010s or would he falter and the timeline begins to converge to ours with a few difference here and there?
And on that note, guess it means that all good things must come to an end as things for now seemed better off than OTL.
 
And on that note, guess it means that all good things must come to an end as things for now seemed better off than OTL.
President Edwards still has a chance to pass a much more aggressive stimulus then OTL's Obama's stimulus hopefully averting the worse of the recession. I'm still betting that infrastructure would be also the main concern for the administration if he wins a second term because of the NYC Olympics and with no War On Terror so the main issue would be the economy and crumbling infrastructure.
 
President Edwards still has a chance to pass a much more aggressive stimulus then OTL's Obama's stimulus hopefully averting the worse of the recession. I'm still betting that infrastructure would be also the main concern for the administration if he wins a second term because of the NYC Olympics and with no War On Terror so the main issue would be the economy and crumbling infrastructure.
OTOH, his scandal might not be butterflied away, especially with the teaser on 2008 being an Annus Horribilis.
 
I can deal with no Taylor Swift, but I do think that the emo aesthetic would still pop up, also, the loss of MCR will be painful.
Emo popularity was butterflied away.

The MCR was created due to the shock of its participants after 9/11. So, no 9/11=no MCR.
Why was Taylor Swift's career butterflied again? But she'd still be a local country singer, correct?

This butterflies the Eras Tour of 2024 then. I have many friends who went to the Eras Tour in Singapore. From classmates in college, to online friends, and others I met from The Travel Squad. I am not a fan of Taylor Swift but I do find her songs a bit nostalgic, especially the ones she released from 2009-2014.
Still a massively baffling butterfly -- with SpaceX, I can kind of understand, but 4Chan? Really? That's the best you could do?

It feels like it's just there for the sake of it, and less for any, y'know, genuine reason that makes sense with the timeline. Everytime someone talks about pop culture in regards to Geronimo, It's almost always throwing stuff at the wall that almost never sticks.
yeah there are alot of things 4chan created IOTL
most im ok with not existing (such as P**e the frog, p**o bear and even bronies to an extent especially as a furry who had to put up with that crap back in the day on top of the residue from that csi episode)
I think the Pepe The Frog would still exist. Before the fictional frog was hijacked as a symbol of the alt-right, Pepe was a kid's character.

I think we'd still have Bronies and Furries as fascination with animals isn't new.
 
OTOH, his scandal might not be butterflied away, especially with the teaser on 2008 being an Annus Horribilis.

Scandal or not, a recession (even if if it's not as bad as IOTL) will hurt President Edwards politically.

ITTL, the Democrats retained their majorities after the 2006 midterms because the Republicans didn't really have anything to run against Edwards on. That's not going to be the case in 2008. Even with a much better response to the '08 crash, there will be a lot of Republicans openly lamenting about how the crisis "wouldn't have happened" if Bush had been re-elected back in 2004.

Edwards' best chance is to respond as quickly as possible to the crash, with a much bigger and more aggressive stimulus than what we got IOTL.
 
This one took a while, but I have a reason. I recently finished work on and released a mod for the campaign trail. American Carnage A Trump Presidency Simulator.
I am quite proud of it.

Also WOW, we just hit 1 Million Views. And I am so excited for the next year of this timeline, I really think the best is yet to come.
I've been playing American Carnage for the past few days and didn't realize that you were the creator. Kudos for the excellent work there and here.
 
I don't like where this is going...
A few guesses based on the images:
- Putin will be reelected, maybe the Russo-Georgian War still happens? Let's hope Burjanadze can defuse the situation better than Saakashvili (which isn't very hard, tbh).
- The financial collapse will still happen as expected, the real question is whether it can be delayed until after the presidential election. I think Edwards' chances will depend solely on the timing of the collapse.
- Seems like the GOP primary will be a contest between Cheney and McCain. Cheney would definitely be a worse candidate against Edwards.
- The 2008 Andean diplomatic crisis could play out differently, perhaps with even a direct armed confrontation between Colombia and Venezuela/Ecuador?
- Myanmar is going to explode, I think the outbreak of the full-blown civil war will happen a decade earlier than IOTL.
 
Putin will be reelected
Well, the re-election of Putin is extremely likely, as the elections will be filled with irregularities, the media will only show pro-Putin messages, and the only candidates he will face off will be Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov, some fake opposition leader that no one will ever hear of, and real opposition figures who will sadly perish in a tragic car accident/food poisoning/helicopter crash.
 
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