Germany gets the 2nd Amendment

A smaller museum in Houston once had an exhibit on War World II. And on one of the posts of the building was taped a typewritten essay with no further fanfare.

NO FOOD

The writer was talking about her and her family's experience during the war when she was a child. They lived in either an occupied territory or in Germany itself. And I'm fairly confident that famine came first to the occupied territories, and late in the war, to Germany itself, probably first to poor people, then the middle classes, and then probably even to rich people.

NO FOOD

That's what she wrote in red magic marker between some of the well-written paragraphs which talked about all kinds of stuff. It certainly made an impression on me.

I know that when he was occupying Japan, Douglas MacArthur overruled a security decision and let Japanese fishing boats go out of the harbor for their daily fishing, including going past U.S. naval vessels, probably with the unstated understanding that there had better not be any problems.

Well, hunting is generally not as good as fishing, but all the same, maybe U.S. authorities in Germany could have done something similar. You're just being decent and middle-of-the-road. You might even make an extra effort to not just arm the shopkeeper class or whatever class in your best judgement was most pro-Nazi, but a much broader class of Germans.

NO FOOD

Human beings do have a tendency to forget past kindnesses in favor of the here and now. We are hierarchical creatures and we do escalate, probably a lot more than we should. But the occupations did go relatively well in both Japan and Germany, doesn't mean we did everything right, but we probably did do some high probability things we can well learn from.
 
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Ummm... exactly what are a mostly urban population going to hunt? Rural people usually had gardens, etc. so tended to be a bit better off.
 
No, hunting's not going to help people in big cities. And again, I don't think hunting is generally as productive as fishing.

But it will help rural Germans and people in smaller towns. It could be one of several things which increase a culture of owning guns.
 
But it will help rural Germans and people in smaller towns. It could be one of several things which increase a culture of owning guns.

from http://www.opb.org/news/series/gunstories/mandated-shots-hunting-in-germany-is-a-different-game-/ .
getting a hunting license in Germany is both difficult and expensive. Most hunting in Germany happens on private agricultural land. Hunters pay thousands of Euros to lease a hunting area for nine years
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State agencies assign a quota to each hunter for the number of deer that must be hunted within their lease. Hunters are required to meet a quota — sometimes as many as 35 or 40 small deer each year.
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Hunters in Germany are an elite group, and you can sense the camaraderie in the room here. To get a license, German hunters have to take roughly a year of courses. They have to train how to shoot guns with a licensed mentor. They have to pass a rigorous, four-hour exam with questions about agricultural and forestry policies, hygiene, and wildlife biology and gun use.
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And if hunters don’t keep wildlife in check, they pay the consequences. If a sounder of wild boars wreaks havoc on a farmer’s crops, the hunter leasing that land has to pay for the damage. One hunter I spoke with said he paid ten thousand Euros in reparations to a landowner last year, after wild pigs tore through the farmer’s fields.
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Hunting as been pointed towards the well to do/aristocracy since the before Charlemagne.

Similar to the way of auto registration in Germany vs the US, where it's ridiculously simple to get a license to drive an own/operate a car in the US, where driving is more seen as a Right than Privilege.

In the US, Farmers have a far better relationship with Hunters to get vermin like Feral Hogs and Deer under control, with population levels monitored by the local Department of Natural Resources for targets on how much hunting is to be allowed. Farmers being able to prove crop damage get more tickets to hunt themselves or to hand out ticket .
Some will even pay Hunters to take care of that problem to hunters they know.

To change this, one PoD would be a Patton lives, and pushes a more US outlook on Hunting in his area of SW Germany to more reflect the US model,
as with gun ownership and in other areas. He wants the German youth in his area to be good shots for facing Russians later on, so gun owning and hunting is less seen as something only the Rich can afford.
 
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People can be evil in myriad ways: gassing of a Tokyo subway, mass suicide via poisoning in Jonestown, IEDs, etc. My question is why do people focus on the effect rather than the cause? Those who intend harm will still commit harm regardless of the tools at their disposal.


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I think his point of guns making things easier is not totally off-base. Evil will always find a way but it's the lesser evils of every day life that are a little easier to bottle.

Gang fighting which is responsible for most murders in the US, is not something unique among most western countries it's just the proliferation of guns in the US makes the gang fighting that much more deadly in their ease to get guns and resort to them for often very minor conflicts.
 
I think his point of guns making things easier is not totally off-base. Evil will always find a way but it's the lesser evils of every day life that are a little easier to bottle.

Gang fighting which is responsible for most murders in the US, is not something unique among most western countries it's just the proliferation of guns in the US makes the gang fighting that much more deadly in their ease to get guns and resort to them for often very minor conflicts.

Brazil has strict European style gun controls on the books, but criminals make their own machine guns
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/01/22/common-illicitly-homemade-submachine-guns-brazil/

Brazil has a per capita of 8 firearms per 100, vs 112 for the USA

They had around 60,000 murders in 2014 for a population of 200 million. 95% of their firearm deaths are from homicide, while in the US the majority is from suicide.

A better indicator for murders is the GINI income inequality

Japan 32.1
UK 32.6
France 33.1
USA 41.1
Brazil 51.5
Louisiana 55.6
 
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