WeisSaul
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Introduction:
It is a great irony that one of the events early in the war that would later doom Germany was the German victory over the nation the German people had despised for so long.
Following what is now deemed the "Phoney War", Germany rapidly defeated France and the Low countries in just 47 days. If it weren't for this rapid victory Germany would have fared better.
Benito Mussolini knew the Italy would not be prepared for war until 1942. The Italians were motivated into leaping into the fray after they saw what appeared to be absolute proof that Germany would win the war against the western powers. France was crushed and Britain was isolated and kicked out of continental Europe.
Without Germany being shackled to the stumbling and mismanaged Italy, the German Industrial machine could focus on the real war instead of saving Italy from its disastrous ventures. Without Italy as an ally there would have been no Greek of North African campaign the Germans would have had to deal with.
Italy would have accepted the Franco-British offers for neutrality. As time went on, and the situation would look more and more dire for France, Britain and France would be more and more willing to give more and more for Italian neutrality; likely receiving a concession/bribe of Tunisia, Djibouti, the Aozou strip. Neutrality and concessions/bribes would likely butterfly away Italy's incursions against Britain and France.
In the early war, Germany would have eventually took Paris. The question is just how long it would have taken. The harder and longer it took and the more effort that would have had to be put in would have established a sense of realism in the German people. Barbarossa would likely have been seen as too ambitious, as the Soviet Union would clearly be a far more capable foe than France. With more distance to cross, more men to fight, and more industrialization to compete with, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics would be seen as an adversary for a later date. Germany would have continued receiving Soviet agriculture and oil.
The long term implications, WW2 and onward, of a much harsher and costlier German victory over France are interesting and peculiar to say the least.
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I'm making a pretty rough timeline with a POD based around the Battle of France. This is my first time ever really trying something like this. Hope you all at least find the concept interesting.
It is a great irony that one of the events early in the war that would later doom Germany was the German victory over the nation the German people had despised for so long.
Following what is now deemed the "Phoney War", Germany rapidly defeated France and the Low countries in just 47 days. If it weren't for this rapid victory Germany would have fared better.
Benito Mussolini knew the Italy would not be prepared for war until 1942. The Italians were motivated into leaping into the fray after they saw what appeared to be absolute proof that Germany would win the war against the western powers. France was crushed and Britain was isolated and kicked out of continental Europe.
Without Germany being shackled to the stumbling and mismanaged Italy, the German Industrial machine could focus on the real war instead of saving Italy from its disastrous ventures. Without Italy as an ally there would have been no Greek of North African campaign the Germans would have had to deal with.
Italy would have accepted the Franco-British offers for neutrality. As time went on, and the situation would look more and more dire for France, Britain and France would be more and more willing to give more and more for Italian neutrality; likely receiving a concession/bribe of Tunisia, Djibouti, the Aozou strip. Neutrality and concessions/bribes would likely butterfly away Italy's incursions against Britain and France.
In the early war, Germany would have eventually took Paris. The question is just how long it would have taken. The harder and longer it took and the more effort that would have had to be put in would have established a sense of realism in the German people. Barbarossa would likely have been seen as too ambitious, as the Soviet Union would clearly be a far more capable foe than France. With more distance to cross, more men to fight, and more industrialization to compete with, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics would be seen as an adversary for a later date. Germany would have continued receiving Soviet agriculture and oil.
The long term implications, WW2 and onward, of a much harsher and costlier German victory over France are interesting and peculiar to say the least.
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I'm making a pretty rough timeline with a POD based around the Battle of France. This is my first time ever really trying something like this. Hope you all at least find the concept interesting.
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