masteroftheveiledthreat
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He can't be bothered.
I gave him a direct link to the 1941 polls in the other thread and even posted two of the polls yet he's still blubbering on about America First and FDR being unable to get a DOW on Germany without Hitler doing so first.
When the facts run counter to his preconceptions, he ignores the facts.
I think you are more intellegent than ever to consider that possibility.
Why do you say I would SURELY ignore the below when obviously you know better than that?
Carl Schwamberger
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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I have educated myself a bit about the isolationist movement and learned it more or less 'walking dead' in the autum of 1941. donations for operations was falling off and active membership was stagnate or declining. Perhaps the best illustration is of Haniford McNider resigning from his leadership position in the America First organization in November 1941. McNider had been a major leader in Republican politics, a long time supporter of isolationism, and a active opponent of Roosevelt. Yet in November, weeks before the Japanese DoW he quit the America First and told his friends he intended to return to active service in the US Army as a officer. It says a lot when a leader in the anti war movement removes himself from political opposition with the intent to return to military service.
If you look carefully at the Gallup pols in 1941 you will see a trend moving from opposition to acceptance of the US being at war by mid 1942. That is to say the voters were no longer pressuring Congress to keep the US out.
It is really difficult to see the US staying out of the war for more than three or four months. A March or April entry into the european war is entirely possible.
I have educated myself a bit about the isolationist movement and learned it more or less 'walking dead' in the autum of 1941. donations for operations was falling off and active membership was stagnate or declining. Perhaps the best illustration is of Haniford McNider resigning from his leadership position in the America First organization in November 1941. McNider had been a major leader in Republican politics, a long time supporter of isolationism, and a active opponent of Roosevelt. Yet in November, weeks before the Japanese DoW he quit the America First and told his friends he intended to return to active service in the US Army as a officer. It says a lot when a leader in the anti war movement removes himself from political opposition with the intent to return to military service.
If you look carefully at the Gallup pols in 1941 you will see a trend moving from opposition to acceptance of the US being at war by mid 1942. That is to say the voters were no longer pressuring Congress to keep the US out.
It is really difficult to see the US staying out of the war for more than three or four months. A March or April entry into the european war is entirely possible.
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