Germany demands unconditional surrender

bard32

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WI the Allies, unlike the Axis, IOTL, were on the ropes? Germany, Italy, and
Japan, meet in Germany, and Hitler demands unconditional surrender of the
Allies, especially the United States, what would have happened if Germany
had been in a position to invade the United States? How would the Germans
enforce their call for unconditional surrender?
 
bard32, I would expect the Allies, especially the United States, to laugh it off. There is no way that Germany nor the entire Axis could invade successfully, let alone occupy successfully the United States, the Soviet Union and the British Empire all at the same time, which would be just about what's required for any unconditional surrender.
 

bard32

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bard32, I would expect the Allies, especially the United States, to laugh it off. There is no way that Germany nor the entire Axis could invade successfully, let alone occupy successfully the United States, the Soviet Union and the British Empire all at the same time, which would be just about what's required for any unconditional surrender.

According to what I have, a book called The People's Almanac #3, Germany had plans to occupy the United States and Canada from the east coast to the Rocky Mountains. West of the Rocky Mountains, from Alaska to
Hawaii, it was going to be the Japanese.
 

Olmeka

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Germany didn't bother with any surrender demands to Poland, Soviet Union, Jews.
The policy was: exterminate.
 
According to what I have, a book called The People's Almanac #3, Germany had plans to occupy the United States and Canada from the east coast to the Rocky Mountains. West of the Rocky Mountains, from Alaska to
Hawaii, it was going to be the Japanese.
Just because it says so in a book, or because the Germans and Japanese planned for it, doesn't mean it could've been done, bard32.
 

CalBear

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According to what I have, a book called The People's Almanac #3, Germany had plans to occupy the United States and Canada from the east coast to the Rocky Mountains. West of the Rocky Mountains, from Alaska to
Hawaii, it was going to be the Japanese.
They also planned to have the Reich last for 1,000 years.

The ability to occupy the U.S. was beyond Germany & Japan combined, even without having to deal with the USSR, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa, Brazil, China, South East Asia, and the parts of Europe already under occupation.

Zero probability event.
 

bard32

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Germany didn't bother with any surrender demands to Poland, Soviet Union, Jews.
The policy was: exterminate.

It was the same with the Daleks on Doctor Who. EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE! :D Seriously, according to interviews with Doctor Who star Carol Anne Ford, who played Susan, the Doctor's granddaughter, the Daleks
were based on the Nazis.
 
It was the same with the Daleks on Doctor Who. EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE! :D Seriously, according to interviews with Doctor Who star Carol Anne Ford, who played Susan, the Doctor's granddaughter, the Daleks
were based on the Nazis.
Err... OK? What's your point though? Why the non sequitur?
 

Olmeka

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It was the same with the Daleks on Doctor Who. EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE! :D Seriously, according to interviews with Doctor Who star Carol Anne Ford, who played Susan, the Doctor's granddaughter, the Daleks
were based on the Nazis.
It kinda fits with the Nazi's Germany ironic stupidity and their relationship with conquered nations.
 

bard32

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They also planned to have the Reich last for 1,000 years.

The ability to occupy the U.S. was beyond Germany & Japan combined, even without having to deal with the USSR, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa, Brazil, China, South East Asia, and the parts of Europe already under occupation.

Zero probability event.

Shall we agree on this point, CalBear? I was thinking IATL. According to the book I have, from 1982, it had a chapter called the following: WHAT 10 DEFEATED COUNTRIES PLANNED TO DO IF THEY'D WON THE WAR. Hitler, in
his second book, wanted to invade the United States no later than 1980. Germany, according to that book, Germany was going to occupy the East Coast of the United States to the Rocky Mountains and the Japanese were going to occupy the United States west of the Rocky Mountains.
 
Shall we agree on this point, CalBear? I was thinking IATL. According to the book I have, from 1982, it had a chapter called the following: WHAT 10 DEFEATED COUNTRIES PLANNED TO DO IF THEY'D WON THE WAR. Hitler, in
his second book, wanted to invade the United States no later than 1980. Germany, according to that book, Germany was going to occupy the East Coast of the United States to the Rocky Mountains and the Japanese were going to occupy the United States west of the Rocky Mountains.

Just because they had a plan doesn't mean they could carry it out. If they couldn't sucessfully carry out the Operation-which-cannot-be-named why would they have better luck with a much larger country a far greater distance away?

As the saying goes, no battle plan survives contact with the enemy.
 
Just because they had a plan doesn't mean they could carry it out. If they couldn't sucessfully carry out the Operation-which-cannot-be-named why would they have better luck with a much larger country a far greater distance away?

As the saying goes, no battle plan survives contact with the enemy.

Agreed. I see a lot of problems with this, many of them the same as the "German invasion of the US in the early 1900s" thread. The only thing is that this time resistance is going to that much stiffer for the Germans, never mind the Japanese.
 
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