So as you may or may not know their is a large population of Turkish immigrants in Germany. What scenario is necessary in order to have a reverse scenario with a large German population in Turkey. With a POD after the fall of Nazi Germany.
Turkey becomes a retirement mecca for elderly Germans. Warm climate, low prices, and a fair number of locals speak German, i.e. former gastarbeiters or kids of theirs.
The Fertile Crescent is pretty densely populated already though isn't it? Or was there a significant population thinness in the 18th century? I could imagine if Russia lost the Great Northern War and the Ottomans kept their Black Sea possesions they could invite German farmers in do to their western agricultural knowledge see that as a success and invite more to other locations later.*After* 1945 makes this far harder; if you have a cataclysmic event that destroys postwar Germany, the natural place for them to go would be to neighboring states or to the New World.
It's much more plausible with an 18th-century POD, say the Ottoman Sultan inviting Germans to settle in the Fertile Crescent (like the OTL Volga Germans)
The Fertile Crescent is pretty densely populated already though isn't it? Or was there a significant population thinness in the 18th century? I could imagine if Russia lost the Great Northern War and the Ottomans kept their Black Sea possesions they could invite German farmers in do to their western agricultural knowledge see that as a success and invite more to other locations later.
So as you may or may not know their is a large population of Turkish immigrants in Germany. What scenario is necessary in order to have a reverse scenario with a large German population in Turkey. With a POD after the fall of Nazi Germany.
The Fertile Crescent is pretty densely populated already though isn't it? Or was there a significant population thinness in the 18th century? I could imagine if Russia lost the Great Northern War and the Ottomans kept their Black Sea possesions they could invite German farmers in do to their western agricultural knowledge see that as a success and invite more to other locations later.
The Fertile Crescent is pretty densely populated already though isn't it? Or was there a significant population thinness in the 18th century? I could imagine if Russia lost the Great Northern War and the Ottomans kept their Black Sea possesions they could invite German farmers in do to their western agricultural knowledge see that as a success and invite more to other locations later.
Yeah but if those stay in Ottomania/Turkey they countAnother issue I see here is the timing. In the 18th century the Ottoman-Habsburg rivalry is too heated for the Sultan to accept any Germans. Maybe if Frederick the Great makes even better relations that makes the Sultan accept German settlers. And probably far away from Russian or Austrian borders. You may think of Greece or Anatolia.
Iraq was a border March between the Ottomans and the Persians.
But that wouldn't be picked and wouldn't come. The Ottomans are fighting Germans, are Muslim and have other more loyal people to settle there instead. While the Germans have America, Russia or other parts of Europe.
You realize that there is a country right next door to East Germany that speaks the same language, is wealthier, and has a far larger amount of jobs available right?Have Germans flee from East Germany to Turkey before the wall goes up. Some form of PoD means the Turkish Government offers incentives to Germans willing to leave?
You realize that there is a country right next door to East Germany that speaks the same language, is wealthier, and has a far larger amount of jobs available right?
So as you may or may not know their is a large population of Turkish immigrants in Germany. What scenario is necessary in order to have a reverse scenario with a large German population in Turkey. With a POD after the fall of Nazi Germany.