Germanization in Western Europe in an Axis Victory

How would the Germanization of annexed territories in an Axis Victory in world war 2 go

Would the Germanization of Germanic groups like the Dutch,Danish, and Norwegians be easier

How much of the Population could identify with Germany and/or as German by Modern times
 

NoMommsen

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What would/do you render as "Germanization" ?

Regarding language ... well all the countries named here are speaking a germanic language and between some parts (like Friesians and neighouring dutchies, though the latter might not like to hear it) the borders of local language(s) are not too separated.
Very likely we would have today even more problems getting orthography "right" while having to deal "only" with the different german idioms in Germany (frisian, severasl low german dialects, bavarian, hessian, swabian, ...) Austria and Switzerland

... easier compared too ?

After long enough a time at least the Flemings might be as german as i.e. the bavarians or austrians or colognians or ... are.


"German culture" had and has quite a ... range in differentiation.

Ask one German "What's german culture" and - if your lucky - you get only 2-3 answers. Ask two germans and ... well is seems to have an exponetial nature ...
 
By this point, those countries already have well developed national identities and have enjoyed decades or centuries of independence. Any attempt to force German language or culture would be resented by those countries' inhabitants.
 

NoMommsen

Donor
How would the Germanization of annexed territories in an Axis Victory in world war 2 go

Would the Germanization of Germanic groups like the Dutch,Danish, and Norwegians be easier

How much of the Population could identify with Germany and/or as German by Modern times
IIRC it was'nt "planned" by Hitler/Himmler to actually "germanize" these countries. ... or even fully intergrate them into the 'Greater German Empire" proper (aside the sillynesses of Himmler with his resurrection of a burgundian state or similar idioties) aka Germany, Austria, Alsac-Lorraine, Sudeten and 'gained' parts of Poland.

Himmler did not want to 'turn' the populations of these countries/states.
He rather wanted to 'extract' the elemts he wanted to integrate them into his supranational 'NewGermanic' SS-state. A state in the concept of the organization of the SS "affording" itself a country (all of Europe from Atlantic to the Ural) to 'care' fore.


Being puppetized states/countires in the orbit of the german "sun" (or rather 'black sun ??) the proper german language would become possibly the general 2nd language (rather easily for the pupils in the aforementioned states due to preexisting 'language-familiarity') to be learned at school. After an Axis-Victory german as a language would worldwide become almost by default a much more 'spread', language similar to russian in the Warsaw Pact states ... or engish in the US...erhmm NATO states.

No need for whatever 'forcing' measures.

German culture - again due to 'obvious' supremacy - would become kinda 'guiding culture' like Coca-Cola in the "west" and Soljanka in the "east" IOTL. ... instead "Bratwurst", black-bread and true beer (not this american Budweiser pi.. ). :biggrin:

Also : No need for whatever 'forcing' measures.
 
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