German Revolution

If a situation similar to the book Fatherland happened, what are the chances of some sort of revolution or coup of some sort? It's very likely that many would be tired of the oppressive regime after a while.

I thought up an alternate history movie or book about a British documentary crew going to Germany in the modern day, to do a documentary about the victorious Germany, which maybe is a little smaller than in some fiction. In Fatherland there is a European Union of German puppet states.

In the middle of the documentary, the crew gets caught in the middle of an uprising. Situations like that are happening all over, mostly in Eastern Europe, but also in regular old Germany. It eventually ends with a Soviet advance into Eastern Europe, and some sort of nuclear dirty bomb being set off in Berlin.

It's likely to happen in the case of a German victory.
 
I suppose the question would be how many Germans would find it repressive ? It could well be something like a Chinese situation where if you're happy to accept the party's political dominance and the necessary compromises with freedom of expression that comes with it, then you can get along perfectly well...

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Grey Wolf
 
As long as the regime provides high living standards, most people will be fine with it. The minority who aren't can easily be suppressed. That is, regrettably, how humanity works.
 
I noticed something about history. Economic instability and poverty lead to oppressive regimes after a revolution in many cases, and the exact opposite happens when the issue is social, such as oppressive regimes. It's all a big circle that goes round and round.

America has a high living standard, yet many are pissed off by the government. When one group is benefited the other group is oppressed. The Bolsheviks and the Nazis before taking power were small, but once word got out they were popular.

Personally I wouldn't give a fuck about standard of living.
 
I noticed something about history. Economic instability and poverty lead to oppressive regimes after a revolution in many cases, and the exact opposite happens when the issue is social, such as oppressive regimes. It's all a big circle that goes round and round.

America has a high living standard, yet many are pissed off by the government. When one group is benefited the other group is oppressed. The Bolsheviks and the Nazis before taking power were small, but once word got out they were popular.

Personally I wouldn't give a fuck about standard of living.

But 'personally' often implies being in the minority

And doesn't address the China question...

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
No, they'll be good for the Germans, bad for everyone else. Or...?

They'll be better for Germans.

Germany's industrial output in WW2 does not make me think that they'll do a great job running their economy.

Likewise, I feel like the fate of the mandatory settlers in the east will mirror the way that people from Venzeual or Zimbabwe's cities do not know how to farm.

By the 1970s, the East is a ghost town, and the Reich is subsisting on aid shipments from America.
 

Valdemar II

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They'll be better for Germans.

Germany's industrial output in WW2 does not make me think that they'll do a great job running their economy.

Likewise, I feel like the fate of the mandatory settlers in the east will mirror the way that people from Venzeual or Zimbabwe's cities do not know how to farm.

By the 1970s, the East is a ghost town, and the Reich is subsisting on aid shipments from America.

I disagree most of the settlers in the east would be "young" people of peasant heritage who looked after cheap land instead of the more expensive one in Germany (much like young Dutch, Danish and German farmers bought land in the east after the fall of communsme and still does), it unlikely that the German would send their urban population out in the farms and lets not forget that Germany prduced 90% of their food themselves before the war.
 
Instead of making a whole new thread, what might have happened if that plot to kill hitler with a bomb worked? The plan was to set up a less nasty government or something.
 
I dont think a revolution would succeed if it did happen these are Nazi remember they would just either kill them or ship them off to the east
 
They'll be better for Germans.

Germany's industrial output in WW2 does not make me think that they'll do a great job running their economy.

Likewise, I feel like the fate of the mandatory settlers in the east will mirror the way that people from Venzeual or Zimbabwe's cities do not know how to farm.

By the 1970s, the East is a ghost town, and the Reich is subsisting on aid shipments from America.

Wasn't most of the problems with the war economy a result of Nazi unwillingness to mobilise the people? Like, for example, nearly everyone kept their servants if they had any, while in Britain the vast majority of them went into the industry? And female labour and all that? Now, those things might have been exaggerated, but still...
 
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