They would have gotten no peace. Just because Goering was in power, doesn't mean that the intense policy of Lebensraum still wouldn't be observed. Unless you also manage to kill off Himmler, Rosenberg, Goebbels and pretty much the entire head of the Nazi government.
Neither Stalin nor any of his cronies planned on accepting a peace with Nazi Germany. They were just committed to the war as anyone else. The myth of peace offers being sent in 1941 comes from the fact that, in order to delay the Nazi advance, Stalin had Molotov deliver an armistice request to the Romanian embassy. The request was never passed on and that was that. It wasn't a serious prelude to peace negotiations in any case.
Ok, this is more of a "what kind of peace could the Germans get if all parties were to enter serious negotiations" instead of a "is it realistic". So, if all parties were willing to enter negotiations, what would the Germans get? I should have made this clear before.
Well if you're going to make a serious story than a strong element of realism is required, otherwise you're opening yourself up to some major criticism.
But in any case, if there is no plausible reason for a German-Soviet peace accord at any date after the war begins, so it's really hard to come up with realistic peace deals which would match the situation on the ground.
Bulgarian actually. But story, if true goes that Bulgarian ambassador believed Russian couldn't be eaten andhe never passed the request. Romania was at war with Soviets and as such didn't have ambassador at Moscow at the time.Neither Stalin nor any of his cronies planned on accepting a peace with Nazi Germany. They were just committed to the war as anyone else. The myth of peace offers being sent in 1941 comes from the fact that, in order to delay the Nazi advance, Stalin had Molotov deliver an armistice request to the Romanian embassy. The request was never passed on and that was that. It wasn't a serious prelude to peace negotiations in any case.
Bulgarian actually. But story, if true goes that Bulgarian ambassador believed Russian couldn't be eaten andhe never passed the request. Romania was at war with Soviets and as such didn't have ambassador at Moscow at the time.
Well, my idea was Goring taking power after Hitler died, and Stalin dying or being deposed from power after a coup. What about starting with a Brest-Livotisk Mark 2? Would Germany be able to get more out of the Russians? Lets say negotiations begin after a general armistice on September 10, 1941.
Guys, stop being smartasses and just answer the goddamn question already. the OP asked "What if?", not "How could?"
If Goring had taken power over Germany in late 1941, what sort of peace would they get with the Russians?
If the Nazis had attempted to broker a peace in 1941, what would have been the terms?
Himmler and Rosenberg are the problems here, Goebbels was never all that interested in lebensraum. It's likely he'd drop whatever favour he has for the concept when you remove Hitler's controlling influence over our favorite rat-faced propagandist.They would have gotten no peace. Just because Goering was in power, doesn't mean that the intense policy of Lebensraum still wouldn't be observed. Unless you also manage to kill off Himmler, Rosenberg, Goebbels and pretty much the entire head of the Nazi government.