German East Asia Squadron

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Would Japan get more at Versailles if her navy is the one which destroys the East Asia Squadron?

I doubt they would get anything additional if they destroyed the East Asia Squadron. There will be almost five years between the battle and the treaty.

The Japanese can though get more if they take a more active part in the war. Since there ships are based on British designs, I think they could be easily supplied through British channels.
 

Flubber

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I doubt they would get anything additional if they destroyed the East Asia Squadron. There will be almost five years between the battle and the treaty.

It was almost five years between the Tsingtao campaign and Versailles, yet that earned Japan a seat at the table. Knocking off the East Asia squadron might inflate Japan's sense of what it is owed, not that that would necessarily add to the crumbs Japan received in the OTL.

The Japanese can though get more if they take a more active part in the war.

Japan hunted CP surface raiders in the Pacific and IO, escorted Entente troop convoys in the Pacific and IO, and even sent destroyers to the Med for ASW work. When you compare those activities with what her actual treaty obligations were, you'll notice Japan was much more active than those treaty provisions required.

Since there ships are based on British designs, I think they could be easily supplied through British channels.

And they were in the OTL.
 

Sumeragi

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Japan hunted CP surface raiders in the Pacific and IO, escorted Entente troop convoys in the Pacific and IO, and even sent destroyers to the Med for ASW work. When you compare those activities with what her actual treaty obligations were, you'll notice Japan was much more active than those treaty provisions required.
Except for the occupation of the German Pacific Islands, all were actually requested by the UK.
 

Flubber

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Except for the occupation of the German Pacific Islands, all were actually requested by the UK.


Requested in addition to Japan's preexisting treaty obligations to the UK.

Because Japan honored those additional requests, she went to Versailles expecting more than she eventually received from the racist SOBs running that particular circus. The Great Power Club in 1919 might as well have been an arm of the KKK. Even if they were invited, non-white, non-Christian people had to sit at the kiddie table and make do with whatever scraps their "superiors" deigned to throw their way.

If Japan did everything she did in the OTL AND sank the German East Asia Squadron, she's going to be even more angry and humiliated at Versailles when she's patted on the head, handed a biscuit, and basically told to fuck off while the "real" nations get down to business.
 

NothingNow

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If Japan did everything she did in the OTL AND sank the German East Asia Squadron, she's going to be even more angry and humiliated at Versailles when she's patted on the head, handed a biscuit, and basically told to fuck off while the "real" nations get down to business.

Agreed. They'd probably only get a couple extra U-boats or something equivalent for the effort too as reparations. Maybe they'd be U 151 or U 139 class ships, but frankly, anything besides getting treated like the Major combatant they were would have been highly insulting. Especially if they had also sunk some of the major commerce raiders of the war, including the Emden. (Of course, that would have major butterflies if Müller survives the war intact, and the Emden was as successful as IOTL, since he'd be one of the few major german war heroes to make it into the 1930s and 1940s, and might become a Generaladmiral or even a Großadmiral.)

Maybe the Army gains a bit more political capital for the Showa period, while Baron Kamio Mitsuomi doesn't die as quickly, and his sense of caution sinks in with the general staff?
 
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