German Colonial Purchases

How likely would these purchases be for germany to make, if they were on better terms with Great Britain. This is for a timeline in which Fashoda escalates, and for this timeline I want germany to have a greater colonial empire.

1901, Germany purchases the Congo from Belgium

1905, Germany purchases the East Indies from the Netherlands
 
I can't see why the Netherlands would sell the Dutch East Indies to the Germans. Its profitable for them to keep the islands. I can see that the Belgians could be 'pressured' by the Germans, but still think it far fetched.
 
How likely would these purchases be for germany to make, if they were on better terms with Great Britain. This is for a timeline in which Fashoda escalates, and for this timeline I want germany to have a greater colonial empire.

1901, Germany purchases the Congo from Belgium

1905, Germany purchases the East Indies from the Netherlands

Yeah, I could see Belgium giving in and selling Congo, but it'd take a war to get the East Indies from the Netherlands. The British would certianly back them up.

So, you'd have a Germany with less money and more expenses keeping things running in Congo.
 
on the other hand, Congo's natural resources could end up making Germany much richer.
Depending, of course, on whether they manage to hold onto the colony long enough to establish it as a profitable asset. They might lose it in any wars with other colonial powers.
 
It must be noted that Belgium didn't have the Congo until 1908.

Buying it in 1901...hmm....the conditions are already being exposed to the world so...it could play well for Germany, they are shown to be the nice guys swooping in to save the Congo.
It would cost them quite a lot of money to buy it at this time though, it was at its most profitable and the diplomatic pressure hadn't got strong enough that it was certain it couldn't continue.

Indonesia to Germany isn't going to happen without a lot of fiddling.
 
After 1900 is a bit late for the Philippines, unfortunately. Germany could have made that offer a bit earlier, including more of Spain's Pacific holdings.

Would Spain or Portugal be willing to part with their African possessions? Or Portugal with East Timor and Macau? The latter in particular could be an interesting base for German trade with China.

Speaking of China, might Germany be able to squeeze its way into a Hong Kong-style holding after the Boxer Rebellion? It might be formally a purchase or lease, even if in practice it's simply a German colony.

What of the Ottoman Empire and Libya? Italy only seized it in 1911, might Germany make an offer attractive enough to purchase it before then? I suppose France and Britain might be slightly uncomfortable with a German presence in the Mediterranean like that, but still.
 
Speaking of China, might Germany be able to squeeze its way into a Hong Kong-style holding after the Boxer Rebellion? It might be formally a purchase or lease, even if in practice it's simply a German colony.

They did.

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Onyx

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Yep they did, it was the region around Qingdao
I've read the "King Leopold's Ghost", in it, says that if the Rubber boom didn't come, Leopold would've sold the Congo to another nation, since Leopold was friends with Austria and good influence on Germany, Austria had way to many problems at home so Germany would've happily taken the colony, not to mention neabry German Kamerun, it would've angered the French alot since the Germans have a far more huger colony.

As for the Indies, Germany wouldn't but it since they had New Guinea, I heard that Germans had trading posts in Haiphong, the island in the South China Sea, and were near to buying it, but of course the Qing Government had to hate foreingers.

God I love German Colonization, it pisses me off that the Allies had to strip it's colonies away, I wanted to see Beerhalls in Namibia :D
 
As for the Indies, Germany wouldn't but it since they had New Guinea, I heard that Germans had trading posts in Haiphong, the island in the South China Sea, and were near to buying it, but of course the Qing Government had to hate foreingers.

Haiphong is a Vietnamese port. I think you mean Hainan.
 
It must be noted that Belgium didn't have the Congo until 1908.

Buying it in 1901...hmm....the conditions are already being exposed to the world so...it could play well for Germany, they are shown to be the nice guys swooping in to save the Congo.

The Germans would have to change a lot in order to be the good guys in their colony. Their colonial track record is not exactly clean. In SW Africa they committed the worst genocide of the 20th century in terms of percentage of an entire ethnic group wiped out.
 
interesting name

Is "Ich bin die Kaiser" a play on gender? If not, you might want to rethink that definite article. :confused:

Otherwise, interesting thread. :)
 
Is "Ich bin die Kaiser" a play on gender? If not, you might want to rethink that definite article. :confused:

Otherwise, interesting thread. :)

Oh lord, don't do that, the poor guy has been bashed enough about it already!

On topic:

The Congo is a possibility, but not the Indies. Libya also is a good possibility, the Ottomans and Germans were rather friendly IIRC. The Berlin-Baghdad Railway is a testament to that.
 
The Germans would have to change a lot in order to be the good guys in their colony. Their colonial track record is not exactly clean. In SW Africa they committed the worst genocide of the 20th century in terms of percentage of an entire ethnic group wiped out.

Their colonial track record doesn't stand out among the colonial records of other nations, though: Belgium has a much worse track record, for example.
 
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