German Basic Law - Rejected?

Apparently the Bavarian Landtag (Provincial Assembly) rejected the Basic Law (German constitution) in 1949 during ratification. However, the Landtag said it would accept the Basic Law if 2/3 of the states ratified it, which is what happened.

Is it plausible for other German states to reject the Basic Law during ratification? There doesn't seem to be very much information about this on the internet, but it does seem interesting. Alternatively, could we see Bavaria reject the Basic Law and then secede rather than acceding to the other states' ratification?
 
Support for a monarchy was rather strong in Bavaria after WW2, if I recall correctly. I don't see why we could not have an independent Bavaria (and Baden, Wurttemburg?) and a north German federal republic.
 
If there were no two-thirds majority, there would still be a Basic Law to come. If necessary, the Allies would lock the German political decision makers into one giant room and even deny them access to the toilets, just to get the thing run after all in the end. They'd do it over and over again. They wouldn't grant the Germans any kind of even partial sovereignity until they finally reach some common ground.
 
Support for a monarchy was rather strong in Bavaria after WW2, if I recall correctly. I don't see why we could not have an independent Bavaria (and Baden, Wurttemburg?) and a north German federal republic.

They may have supported monarchy (I rather feel this is exagerrate) and been uneasy about the basic laws, but that didn't make them seperatists. Bavarian seperatism has since at the very latest the 1880s been a joke.
 

Susano

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Yes,Bavarian seperatism is a goddamn clichee.

Now, I dont like the Basic Law, but if the Bavarian objections are heard, that would make it even worse... :/
 
Yes,Bavarian seperatism is a goddamn clichee.

Now, I dont like the Basic Law, but if the Bavarian objections are heard, that would make it even worse... :/
Can't we make them join Austria or something? They're very similar culturally. ;)
 
Yes,Bavarian seperatism is a goddamn clichee.

Now, I dont like the Basic Law, but if the Bavarian objections are heard, that would make it even worse... :/

So, at the risk of other AHcommers jumping me, may I ask what you dislike about the Grundgesetz?
 
They may have supported monarchy (I rather feel this is exagerrate) and been uneasy about the basic laws, but that didn't make them seperatists. Bavarian seperatism has since at the very latest the 1880s been a joke.

Yes,Bavarian seperatism is a goddamn clichee.

Now, I dont like the Basic Law, but if the Bavarian objections are heard, that would make it even worse... :/

The seperatist Bavaria Party did lead the government a few years in the 50s.
 

Susano

Banned
The seperatist Bavaria Party did lead the government a few years in the 50s.

The howls you hear all the way over the atlantic are both Bavaria Party and CSU members, for being confused with each other. And not even the Bavaria Party was entirely seperatist.
/E: Ah, or maybe you didnt. Looking up on Wikipedia, the party participated in state government for 3 years under a SPD-led government.
 
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The howls you hear all the way over the atlantic are both Bavaria Party and CSU members, for being confused with each other. And not even the Bavaria Party was entirely seperatist.
/E: Ah, or maybe you didnt. Looking up on Wikipedia, the party participated in state government for 3 years under a SPD-led government.

Ok, I did misread that, but they were pretty much on equal footing with the CSU and the SPD for a few years. They got nearly 18% of the vote and 39 representatives in the Landtag, and hence were the 3rd largest party. Participated is a bit denigrating to their role then.
 

Susano

Banned
Hm, yes, it appears so. But of course that was because they were much modere moderate at that time, or so it seems, and hence not seperatist. Confederalist/State Righters I guess one could say. And eventually all moderates (and some loonies) split off.
 
Hm, yes, it appears so. But of course that was because they were much modere moderate at that time, or so it seems, and hence not seperatist. Confederalist/State Righters I guess one could say. And eventually all moderates (and some loonies) split off.

Ok, I suppose that's reasonable. Still, if the Bavaria Party remained more moderate and remained a viable party in Bavaria, secessionism could develop gradually as Bavarian moves for more autonomy are rejected over and over again. Perhaps Bavaria as the German Quebec (although the language barrier makes Quebec's case more plausible).
 
Ok, I suppose that's reasonable. Still, if the Bavaria Party remained more moderate and remained a viable party in Bavaria, secessionism could develop gradually as Bavarian moves for more autonomy are rejected over and over again. Perhaps Bavaria as the German Quebec (although the language barrier makes Quebec's case more plausible).
Heh. Ever tried reading or listening to Bavarian?:)
 

Susano

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Heh. Ever tried reading or listening to Bavarian?:)

Thats another misconception - Its actually very near to Standard German. Well, not worse than any other dialect, anyways. Lower German, on the other side of Germany, is what is markantly different to Standard German.
 
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