German-American War of 1889

BrotherToAll,

It is really quite simple. Any change in a timeline, no matter how insignificant, will lead to a US-Canada-Britain war. The fact that no such war has happened in real life is considered ASB.

Another perhaps even simpler answer is that in any history-related internet forum, there will be US and Canadian members who dream of a conflict between their two countries. As the years march on, they get more and more disappointed.

Perhaps they need to be hockey fans.

Wait if this is a German-American war way are we so bent on having the US invade Canada? I'm confused ????:confused:

I mean if Germany and the US are in conflict why would the US invade a party totally unrelated to said conflict? That would be akin to the US invading Mexico after 9-11 just because it was there. It makes no sense!!

And another question why would Britian join Germany in a war against the US? It makes no sense I mean at this time British investors are pouring money into American industry why would the British throw all that away to ally with a nation the never really ever trusted and was seen as a major potential rival?

Britian could placate a militarily powerful US with ease by using the American military buildup as a market for British weapons. Britian has far more investment in the US and can gain far more in the long run by having a US that is friendly than having one that is hostile.

In the event of a war in 1889, even a very short one, would open the US as a large market for modern and surplus European weapons and vessels. Neither Britian or France would want to jeopardize that market to support the Germans.
 
BrotherToAll,

It is really quite simple. Any change in a timeline, no matter how insignificant, will lead to a US-Canada-Britain war. The fact that no such war has happened in real life is considered ASB.

Another perhaps even simpler answer is that in any history-related internet forum, there will be US and Canadian members who dream of a conflict between their two countries. As the years march on, they get more and more disappointed.

Perhaps they need to be hockey fans.

But if they were hockey fans then Canada would always win except for the occasional American upset, but then they would still win because 10 US dollars says half the team is Canadian anyway.

But if my memory is correct Britian did what it could to avoid war with America when it could have easily crushed it multiple times throught history because of the value of the US as an ally. Also like I said it would make almost no economic sense for Britian to jump in on either side during a German-American war as it could make a pretty penny dealing arms to the US.
 
It sounds rather ASB-ish to me. Bismarck had simply too many problems at home to contemplate a "war for prestige," a type of war that he throughout his life derided as idiotic. He was planning a radical realignment of the reich, either a coup to overthrow the Reichstag or an alliance with the Center or both (historians forever debate this). The last thing he needed was an actual shooting war where he pisses off a country that he cannot invade, a war that would drag and further embitter his Socialist enemies. In fact, a war with the US would probably enable Holstein to spring his trap on Bismarck even earlier than RL, and we'd see Wilhelm II at helm in 1889 instead of 1890. The last few years of the 1880's was no time for adventure in Bismarck's mind, so while he was willing to huff and puff in Samoa, if shootings started as the OP suggests, he'd most likely have patched up the incident with some sort of face-saving mea culpa and went on with his attempt to resolve the constitutional crisis he had created.
 
It sounds rather ASB-ish to me. Bismarck had simply too many problems at home to contemplate a "war for prestige," a type of war that he throughout his life derided as idiotic. He was planning a radical realignment of the reich, either a coup to overthrow the Reichstag or an alliance with the Center or both (historians forever debate this). The last thing he needed was an actual shooting war where he pisses off a country that he cannot invade, a war that would drag and further embitter his Socialist enemies. In fact, a war with the US would probably enable Holstein to spring his trap on Bismarck even earlier than RL, and we'd see Wilhelm II at helm in 1889 instead of 1890. The last few years of the 1880's was no time for adventure in Bismarck's mind, so while he was willing to huff and puff in Samoa, if shootings started as the OP suggests, he'd most likely have patched up the incident with some sort of face-saving mea culpa and went on with his attempt to resolve the constitutional crisis he had created.

Yes but would it be possible for Bismark to let it slip at just the wrong time and his temporary screw up then proceeds to spiral into a conflict that lasts several months and embitters both nations and also leads to Germanys loss of Samoa for good to the Americans?
 
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