General Precolonial Philippines Ideas Thread

They will have majority of Central Luzon and they will have regions 1-3, except for Bataan and Bulacan, I think the Japanese would not think of closing themselves in this scenario because they would have a buffer that they could prop up against the Spanish in case the Spanish get too troublesome.
Nah, too rich of a farmlands to ignore Region 3, though.
 
Nah, too rich of a farmlands to ignore Region 3, though.
The richest area in Luzon is Bulacan so they will have Bulacan which is under Lakandula's kins, the Hindus/Pagans and Muslims will have Nueva Ecija, Zambales and Pampanga - the Spanish did not colonize Nueva Ecija til late 17th century.

The Spanish will just ignore them due to them being not rich enough, in this scenario the Spanish might focus on Mollucas.
 
There are 2 things needed for the Spanish to not to conquer Northern Luzon
-have the muslims of Northern Luzon and the Muslims of Southern Luzon split politically
-Have the muslims and hindus of Northern Luzon unite

I think having just the muslims of northern luzon split from the south would mean that the Spanish would not be able to conquer Northern Luzon except for Bataan and Meycauayan area.
 
Well, I was talking about the entire Luzon.
Only the southern area can get sinicized since the chinese have no interest in the north but the interests of the chinese is in visayas and southern luzon, the northern area was barren to them, but what is possible is to have Northern Luzon to be a bringer of Islam in the North due to it being close to Sumadera/Pasai Kingdom in the late 13th century.
 
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Only the southern area can get sinicized since the chinese have no interest in the north but the interests of the chinese is in visayas and southern luzon, the northern area was barren to them, but what is possible is to have Northern Luzon to be a bringer of Islam in the North due to it being close to Sumadera/Pasai Kingdom in the late 13th century.

It doesn't have to be the Chinese themselves. Sinicized natives can migrate northwards and interact with the northern tribes.
 
Doesn't change the fact that Tondo was in the Pasig River delta.
Regarding Sinification, the People of Northern Luzon were not interested in China and vice versa since the Chinese consider their lands as worthless if anything they are interested is in Ryukyu or Japan who could influence them due to them being an intermediary between the Malay world and the Japanese, that is the only 'sinification' that can happen to them, but I think the Vietnamese are another source of influence.

I think Northern Luzon can be pulled to Mongol orbit if one of their legendary princesses either Sasaban or Dibuka(the woman attributed to be Urduja) are married to a Mongol instead of Majapahit princes.
 
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Regarding Sinification, the People of Northern Luzon were not interested in China and vice versa since the Chinese consider their lands as worthless if anything they are interested is in Ryukyu or Japan who could influence them due to them being an intermediary between the Malay world and the Japanese, that is the only 'sinification' that can happen to them, but I think the Vietnamese are another source of influence.

How about the Koreans?

I think Northern Luzon can be pulled to Mongol orbit if one of their legendary princesses either Sasaban or Dibuka(the woman attributed to be Urduja) are married to a Mongol instead of Majapahit princes.

How about an outright Mongol invasion? :p
 
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