General Douglas MacArthur led Coup WI

In 1951 General Douglas MacArthur was relieved of his command due to his contradicting statements with the Truman Administrations Policies. At the time he was a household name across the world and was one of the most popular generals in US history. The statements and beliefs that got him removed from his command were about policies and restraint of the US in the Korean War. This all came to ahead when 6th of April that year Truman ordered that MacArthur be relieved of his duties and command be handed to a successor.

What would have happened if MacArthur had refused and in this version, instead of having the Joint Chiefs appose him, support him instead and MacArthur, being aware that Truman was having these discussion moved first?

Could he had achieved it and if so what is the outcome for America if he had?
 
In 1951 General Douglas MacArthur was relieved of his command due to his contradicting statements with the Truman Administrations Policies. At the time he was a household name across the world and was one of the most popular generals in US history. The statements and beliefs that got him removed from his command were about policies and restraint of the US in the Korean War. This all came to ahead when 6th of April that year Truman ordered that MacArthur be relieved of his duties and command be handed to a successor.

What would have happened if MacArthur had refused and in this version, instead of having the Joint Chiefs appose him, support him instead and MacArthur, being aware that Truman was having these discussion moved first?

Could he had achieved it and if so what is the outcome for America if he had?

Nope, sorry, ASB. Dugout Doug could be a delusional asshat at times, but he wasn't that crazy. And the chances of the Joint Chiefs supporting such insanity were close to zero.
 

Genghis

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Nope, sorry, ASB. Dugout Doug could be a delusional asshat at times, but he wasn't that crazy. And the chances of the Joint Chiefs supporting such insanity were close to zero.

ASB by definition isnt close to zero but exactly zero. Besides 1% chance is well withing norm of Alternate historz.

Plus this board has bias, Mac Arthur is sort of Human Operation Sealion from my experience.
 
He fails miserably and then mental health experts may try to cure him from his insanity.

Historical US is too stable. Dictatorship in the US could be possible after a nuclear war, but not because of gov policies in Korea.
 
ASB by definition isnt close to zero but exactly zero. Besides 1% chance is well withing norm of Alternate historz.

Plus this board has bias, Mac Arthur is sort of Human Operation Sealion from my experience.
MacArthur being that much of an idiot? Unlikely.
Joint Chiefs supporting him? 1% is an incredibly HIGH probability for that.

Him attempting a coup? That's low probability, but not, as you say, ASB.

Him succeeding? That probably IS ASB. see @liberty90 's post.
 

Genghis

Banned
MacArthur being that much of an idiot? Unlikely.
Joint Chiefs supporting him? 1% is an incredibly HIGH probability for that.

Him attempting a coup? That's low probability, but not, as you say, ASB.

Him succeeding? That probably IS ASB. see @liberty90 's post.

Honestly History is Weird. who would imagine habsburg rising from mere Counts to the Emperors of Several Nations.
 
I've heard that Richard Nixon kicked around the idea of refusing to step aside and subverting the Constitution. He was told he could never pull it off. If a sitting president who won 49 states couldn't do it, no way does a general push aside a president, even one as unpopular as Truman was toward the end.
 
ASB by definition isnt close to zero but exactly zero. Besides 1% chance is well withing norm of Alternate historz.

With regard to the *extremely* improbable (I'd say the odds of this are closer to 0.001% than 1%), I'd have to agree with Chesterton's Father Brown:

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“Not at all,” replied the priest calmly; “it’s not the supernatural part I doubt. It’s the natural part. I’m exactly in the position of the man who said, “I can believe the impossible, but not the improbable.””

“That’s what you call a paradox, isn’t it?” asked the other.

“It’s what I call common sense, properly understood,” replied Father Brown. ”It really is more natural to believe a preternatural story, that deals with things we don’t understand, than a natural story that contradicts things we do understand. Tell me that the great Mr Gladstone, in his last hours, was haunted by the ghost of Parnell, and I will be agnostic about it. But tell me that Mr Gladstone, when first presented to Queen Victoria, wore his hat in her drawing-room and slapped her on the back and offered her a cigar, and I am not agnostic at all. That is not impossible; it’s only incredible. But I’m much more certain it didn’t happen than that Parnell’s ghost didn’t appear; because it violates the laws of the world I do understand. So it is with that tale of the curse. It isn’t the legend that I disbelieve—it’s the history.”

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/chesterton/gk/c52fb/chapter29.html
 
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