Gauls ruling Rome?

What would have happen if when the Gauls pillaged Rome they stayed in the city and announced that they were basically moving in, and a Romano-Celtic culture was created with A larger helping of celtic culture?
VENI, Vidid VICI
 
What would have happen if when the Gauls pillaged Rome they stayed in the city and announced that they were basically moving in, and a Romano-Celtic culture was created with A larger helping of celtic culture?
VENI, Vidid VICI

Seems like if the wanted to stay in Italy they could find a better place to settle than Rome. Probably on the east coast with Rome as a vassal. Besides, they probably would have been booted out by the Romans, whose major families still had widespread support.

The question "what if" here doesn't do the problem justice. What if they did? Well things would be so different, even a hundred years down the road from the POD that it's nigh on impossible to speculate. Heck, any speculation would be mostly guessing and involve generous use of artistic license by the guessor.

In a sentence, this question is too broad.
 
Okay Whatever, unless it is against the Rules of the site or something, artistic liencese is okay with me. I put this on to encourage discussion and because I like to see what other people think. and the thought was, they stayed in Rome. And Rome was situated great. The city controlled the river tiber one of the biggest rivers in Italy
 
Heck, any speculation would be mostly guessing and involve generous use of artistic license by the guessor.

In a sentence, this question is too broad.
We do this kind of thing all the time. Any TL that goes more than a few years veers into that same territory. That's why we do this for fun and not as historians. :)
 
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the excellent TL of Errnge on this subject.

You will have a good time to read it Veni Vidi Vici, as it's one of the answers possible, and of quality.
 
Well, if the Celtic Senones under their king-chieftain, Brennus, went the whole hog and just massacred all the Patrician and Senatorial families, as well as massacred or enslaved the remaining Plebeian class within the city, instead of just forcing tribute out of them, they would have resumed with their initial aim of conquering the Etruscan city of Clusium, whom they were at war with before the Romans intervened.

The Senones were really after land in Etruria (Tuscany), and had they definitively destroyed the Roman Republic, would have sought to establish their tribe's hegemony over the cities of Etruria and Umbria in the east, and assuming they maintained some kind of political unity among themselves, would have established a kingdom with Clusium as their capital. Otherwise, Etruria, Umbria and maybe parts of Latium, would have descended into a hodge-podge of separate, warring, Celtic -dominated city-states.

Either way, there is no guarantee that some other city-state federation like the one Rome dominated in OTL that would arise to establish a Mediterranean-centred empire.

More likely the next most dominant force for civilization in the western Mediterranean in the absence of Rome will either stem from the Greek city of Syracuse in Sicily, the Punic commonwealth of Carthage, or one of the tribal confederacies in Gaul.
 
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Well, if the Celtic Senones under their king-chieftain, Brennus, went the whole hog and just massacred all the Patrician and Senatorial families, as well as massacred or enslaved the remaining Plebeian class within the city, instead of just forcing tribute out of them, they would have resumed with their initial aim of conquering the Etruscan city of Clusium, whom they were at war with before the Romans intervened.

The Senones were really after land in Etruria (Tuscany), and had they definitively destroyed the Roman Republic, would have sought to establish their tribe's hegemony over the cities of Etruria and Umbria in the east, and assuming they maintained some kind of political unity among themselves, would have established a kingdom with Clusium as their capital. Otherwise, Etruria, Umbria and maybe parts of Latium, would have descended into a hodge-podge of separate, warring, Celtic -dominated city-states.

Either way, there is no guarantee that some other city-state federation like the one Rome dominated in OTL that would arise to establish a Mediterranean-centred empire.

More likely the next most dominant force for civilization in the western Mediterranean in the absence of Rome will either stem from the Greek city of Syracuse in Sicily, the Punic commonwealth of Carthage, or one of the tribal confederacies in Gaul.

I am really thankful for all of your posts but the thing I was trying to get at is What if Gaul inhabited Rome after they Conquered? But by all means continue where it is going
 
Vae Victis !

I suppose Carthage is free to build a bigger empire witgout Rome as rival. I don't really see who can oppose it in western mediterranean .
 
Okay, Basically what I am trying to get at here, is what happens with a Roman state with the same if not more than the actual one, but with a heavy Celtic Influence?
 
We do this kind of thing all the time. Any TL that goes more than a few years veers into that same territory. That's why we do this for fun and not as historians. :)

I was more saying that it's not the kind of questions that can simply be answered like " oh right the Romans would have been way more tolerant then!"

I meant not to discourage, just to say its a really really broad question that would require loads of research and lots of time to answer - like an entire TL.

And though license is certainly present, I would like to think that plausibility is at least on the writers mind.
 
I am really thankful for all of your posts but the thing I was trying to get at is What if Gaul inhabited Rome after they Conquered? But by all means continue where it is going

Well, it wasn't Rome that they were actually after. It was the land around Clusium. But, if they completely destroyed the city, some others may resettle the site again. But whether Celtic-inhabited or not, their is no reason to think that Celtic-inhabited Rome would have the same cultural impact on world history. More likely, a repopulated Rome might just fade into relative political obscurity. There were far better locations to establish a potential capital in Italy than Rome.
 
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