Future of Russia in the event of a failed October Revolution

Hey Guys,

If the October Revolution had failed for some reason (not a good area of history for me, so I can't give any details for that), what would the future of Russia be like? This is especially applicable for the next few decades. I'm not too interested on the world outside Russia for this, so don't talk about the Nazis not gaining power due to a lack of a huge scapegoat etc.

How would this democratic, Russian Republic develop? How would its industrialisation go? And so forth.

Thanks to anyone who can help.
 
Well, they have to either stay iin the war and go the distance, or make peace. Whilst the first would on the surface benefit the allies, the not freeing up of CP manpower in the East would mean no Michael offensive and the standing on the defensive in the West which could actually prolong the war. I don't know whether not having a Brest-Litovsk will make Versailles more lenient, since the allies won't be able to have this excuse, but it might. Poland will probably also look different since Russia had already promised it its independence and is unlikely to attack it!

If Russia HAS to make peace, or face collapse, then it gets curiouser. They will agree terms a lot earlier, and thus the pre-BL advance won't occur (where the Germans tried to force the Bolsheviks back to the table) and thus the treaty will be more lenient. What this means in fact I am not sure?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
In the case of a FAILED October Revolution...

It's not pretty. Yeah, the Bolsheviks are out--but Kerensky is likely slid out of power, and replaced by one or more of the military officers who made up the spine of the White movement. And those guys...

Well, they're what make the Russian Civil War IOTL a sad struggle between two opposing evils. Imagine an anti-Semitic military dictatorship fighting a war with the peasantry, because that's what you'll have.

You want a democratic Russia--avoid the October Revolution all together, and it might have a chance.
 
Of course if you avoid the October Revolution, you'll just end up with another one a few weeks down the line. Kerensky wasnt a good leader by any viewpoint except his own.

Without the Soviets a lot of good stuff is butterflied along with the bad. Indeed Russia could be riven with ethnic strife and a weak goverment whose members are too busy stealing to bother ruling the nation, losing a lot of land and remaining under-industrialized.

A White Junta is the bad outcome to the RCW.
 
After the October Revolution, there wasn't any civilian government to put itself at the head of a Russian republic, democratic or otherwise (as opposed to there being a mordibly ineffective one): there was Reds and Whites.

The best-case scenario for a White victory is for the main generals to keep a handle on their own fiefs and bash out some kind of agreement after overcoming the Reds in 1919, which would result in a government which, for all it would be wobbly, repressive, and loomed over by the military, would at least be a government. The worst-case scenario is Russia going the Chinese way and splintering into warlordism.

Better than a failed revolution is a scenario in which the revolution never happens. I heartily recomend the dormant but excellent "Leninless World" and the recent "Freedoms of February", which both take their own angles on killing Lenin off during the underground struggle and removing his single-minded determination to take complete power from the Bolsheviks.
 
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