Full blown Mexico-US war after WWII

[Alex1guy]

Communist Mexico, or a violent coup against the current Mexican government. Take your pick, neither are easy to create.

 

[UrbanRedneck]

Frankly I dont think the US would want Mexico's land simply because we have enough of our own to deal with. Also alot of Mexican land is very poor. Plus if Mexico did become part of the US, Mexicans would be granted voting rights and allowed to form states. would those states go democrat or republican? Nobody knows.

Now what if they discovered a whole bunch of oil in Mexico sometime in the 1930's or so that could all change.

 

[bsmart111]

There was a book I read when I was in middle and high school involving civil strife in Mexico and the U.S. establishing a buffer zone on the Mexican side of the border. A major subplot involved the first female soldier or officer being deployed in ground combat.

Can't remember the title though. I think what happened was there was a left-wing takeover and the drug lords were trying to stir up so much crap it'd provoke a U.S. intervention to get rid of the new government.

That's a lot more realistic than Mexico picking a fight it can't win or the United States getting "Manifest Destiny" flashbacks.

It sounds like a Harold Coyle book that I can't remember the title to either.

But on a slightly different tack what if we move the war back to have a Axis supported Mexico declare war on the U.S. just after Pearl Harbor?

 

[Don Grey]

Right after ww2 the mexicon goverment gets over thrown by a fascists or communists. For fascists in order to gain legitamacy and bring back the mexican empire mexico decides to go after central american nations getting all the way to the border of panama before america decides to put a stop to it. Or communists take contral and in order to spread the "the peoples revolution" they start a "great patriotic war" and do the same untill americans stop them when they reach panama or something. How is that?

 

[bsmart111]

Right after ww2 the mexicon goverment gets over thrown by a fascists or communists. For fascists in order to gain legitamacy and bring back the mexican empire mexico decides to go after central american nations getting all the way to the border of panama before america decides to put a stop to it. Or communists take contral and in order to spread the "the peoples revolution" they start a "great patriotic war" and do the same untill americans stop them when they reach panama or something. How is that?

United Fruit Company (now Chiquita) isn't going to let them get that far. When they get to the Banana plantations United Fruit will make sure that the invaded countries get plenty of aid from the U.S. If Mexico were to declare war on Honduras or Nicaragua the OAS would step in andstop it if it got any bigger than some of the other Central American wars of the 50s & 60s. The U.S. may join as part of the OAS but they are not going in alone. If there is not an actual decleration of war by Mexico than the U.S. will just 'provide aid and advisors' and put economic pressure on Mexico

 

[Michel Van]

Do i get this right ?
Mexico in War with USA:

That just bombed The third Reich and Imperial Japan back into Stone age
That got the Atomic Bomb and used it twice !
What have over 10000 Bomber, Fighter, Tanks
With experienced battle Troops armed to the teeth

That gonna be dam short war...

 

[Duke 4]

If there was a war. The Texas National Guard gets some exercise and then goes home.

 

[Osakadave]

It sounds like a Harold Coyle book that I can't remember the title to either.

But on a slightly different tack what if we move the war back to have a Axis supported Mexico declare war on the U.S. just after Pearl Harbor?

Trial by Fire, as I pointed out above.

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

Mexico gets steamrolled in a few days.

shortly followed by a llllllllllllooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg insurgency, not only in Mexico but in the southern US as well.

 

[juanml82]

This works. Or maybe there's an ugly cross-border incident that spirals out of control.

Say some Mexican criminals do something bad in, say, Texas, and get pursued across an unclear part of the border by the Texas Guard. The Guard collides with the Mexican military and there's a fight.

(Bonus points if the criminals ARE elements of the Mexican military in pay of the cartels.)

Things spiral from there.

Diplomats intervene and the incident is cooled. Those things don't spiral unless one of the governments wants war.

 

[Antipater]

Communist Mexico, or a violent coup against the current Mexican government. Take your pick, neither are easy to create.

Probably just a communist coup. I don't think that a more typical military coup would lead to an outright military intervention. Probably lots of hand-wringing in the press and maybe some national guard units called up and sent to the border. Maybe even some economic sanctions. But the idea of the United States intervening militarily in Mexico to restore the PRI (for a pre-2000 coup) is laughable unless the alternative was some kind of Marxist or Maoist group.

And even in the event of a Communist-inspired coup, I think the war would look a lot more like Granada than Vietnam. There would be a quick military response, with marines and special forces descending on Mexico City in short order, re-instating the old government, or some would-be caudillo who promises to "restore order" and "hold elections" in that order. United States troops would start drawing down as soon as possible, while the new leader undertakes a long and bloody campaign to repress the traitors and communists who dared overthrow the old order, probably assisted by US special forces and "advisers." Said campaign probably focuses on Chiapas and the Yucatan, with occasional flareups in the North around Sonora.

If this occurred in the 1960's or 70's, Mexico would probably resemble today's Guatemala politically, which on the whole might not be a very bad thing.

 

[Alamo]

Is there anyway a full blown war can occur after WWII involving Mexico and the USA? I assume if a leftist over throw occurs and it all goes south would be the only way.

Uh, Mexico was a one-party socialist state from the 1930s onwards, historically....

 

[Hades]

If anything happened like Mexico going collectively crazy and stupid enough to try to attack the US, the US government will just laugh before effortlessly crushing the Mexican military, maybe demanding some damages, a change of government as well as getting the US military to occupy certain areas of northern Mexico for a few decades.