From Ashes and Ruin, A New World is Forged

great update but i'm curious...

you're picture seems to imply that the nortehomians retained their scandinavian features. do i foresee genocide?
 
great update but i'm curious...

you're picture seems to imply that the nortehomians retained their scandinavian features. do i foresee genocide?

No. Not at all. The Riffians, the local population of the Emirate of Nekor, have a higher percentage for blond hair and blue or green eyes than Spaniards, Portuguese and Italians already in OTL without much foreign admixture. You'll see a lot of the native population ending up being killed, akin to how the Anglo-Saxons suffered during the Harrying of the North by William the Conqueror and the Normans but it won't be anywhere near genocide.

To summarize, it's common enough to find blond and blue or green eyed Berbers as is, the admixture of the Norse would just increase that. :p
 


To summarize, it's common enough to find blond and blue or green eyed Berbers as is, the admixture of the Norse would just increase that. :p

you see, i never knew this. i always supposed berbers were akin to arabs with maybe more african features...

THE MORE YOU KNOW :)
 
you see, i never knew this. i always supposed berbers were akin to arabs with maybe more african features...

THE MORE YOU KNOW :)

Arabs are Semitic and Berbers are Hamitic I believe but then again the difference between the two nowadays are very fuzzy since the two had intermixed.

Well yeah. :p
 

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Interesting stuff, sir Drago. I actually checked on the Armenian Genocide (is that what you kids are calling it these days?), for the Emirate of Nekor, and lo and behold, I find Sa'id ibn Salih, being noted for leading a revolt against his brother.

I figured Nekor was real, but I thought Sa'id was as made up as Ludhriq. It's pretty awesome that he wasn't.

Also, I do like that there's going to be Norse-featured Muslims living in Morroco. It's just so paradoxical in OTL, but it fits very well here.

Of course, it'd be interesting to see the exact opposite; a dark-skinned Berber fleeing to Scandinavia and worshipping Odin.

Either way though, great stuff. I wonder if Sa'id will be rewarded as a traitor deserves, or will he become Ludhriq's right hand?
 
Considering that the Norsemen speak a North Germanic language and the Arabs speak a South Semitic language, will Old Nortehomian (I think Nortehom in and of itself is too Latin, but still pretty good) be like an alt-Yiddish? With Berber playing the role of a third linguistic influence much as Slavic did OTL?

Go Ludhriq!
 
@ BHA: Nortehomians I got off Portuguese. North men. Norse will quickly die out within one or two generations after Ludhriq. I planned on Nortehomian to be a Romance language that is heavily sprinkled with Arabic and Berber loan words. More Berber than Arabic though that's for reasons that will be realized later on. It'll sound a lot like Mozarabic in OTL. A lot of the Norse are going to form families with the women they had captured from Harun and Zawaia.

@ Splendid Tuesday: The Genocide didn't give me much information on Nekor and I tried searching on other websites. Sa'id ibn Salih is indeed a person that existed but since there was so little information on the guy, I had to improvise. And the brother thing does make a good reason of why he felt so betrayed.

Oh you will. The Nortehomians, even after they had assimilated into the local populace, will still remember their roots. You'll see your Berbers in Denmark, worshiping Thor. Islam will have a lot more of a militant interpretation with the Nortehomians, especially subverting the meaning of jihad for holy war.

I won't say yet.

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