French Victory At War of Spanish Succession- Effects on the World

Anaxagoras

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Massively. The Bourbon Empire (good a name as any) will be the dominant power throughout the 18th Century, and possibly much longer. Don't expect relations between the French and Spanish to be all that chummy, though.
 
If the Napoleonic wars are any guide, we might see earlier Latin American independence, especially if the existing relatively corrupt but flexible system of cabildos was exchanged for a more zealous and efficient oine based on intendants.
 
If the Napoleonic wars are any guide, we might see earlier Latin American independence, especially if the existing relatively corrupt but flexible system of cabildos was exchanged for a more zealous and efficient oine based on intendants.

I don't follow, I'm afraid. The Revolutions didn't break out until Napoleon invaded Spain.
 
I meant that traditional elites in Spanish America feared the prospect of a centralized, reforming "godless" administration in taking hold in Spain, whether it was composed of domestic liberals or (French) Bourbon absolutists. Either way, it threatened the old creole predominance in much of Latin America.
 
If the Napoleonic wars are any guide, we might see earlier Latin American independence, especially if the existing relatively corrupt but flexible system of cabildos was exchanged for a more zealous and efficient oine based on intendants.

Why? I mean in OTL the French did put their pretender in the throne and it did not produce a break ...

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I meant that traditional elites in Spanish America feared the prospect of a centralized, reforming "godless" administration in taking hold in Spain, whether it was composed of domestic liberals or (French) Bourbon absolutists. Either way, it threatened the old creole predominance in much of Latin America.

I repeat: Phillip V ...
 
Felipe V was King of Spain only, not some variety of Franco-Spanish realm. Therefore Felipe depended on largely local talent for administration and lacked the direct backing of French troops; the reforms he instituted were more limited than those Louis XIV or XV (and their ministers of state) might have attempted as kings of a Bourbon empire.
 
Felipe V was King of Spain only, not some variety of Franco-Spanish realm. Therefore Felipe depended on largely local talent for administration and lacked the direct backing of French troops; the reforms he instituted were more limited than those Louis XIV or XV (and their ministers of state) might have attempted as kings of a Bourbon empire.

I´m not completely sure that a French victory means a French-Spanish union ... not at least until the death of Louis XIV and a new succession war ...
 
Felipe V was King of Spain only, not some variety of Franco-Spanish realm. Therefore Felipe depended on largely local talent for administration and lacked the direct backing of French troops; the reforms he instituted were more limited than those Louis XIV or XV (and their ministers of state) might have attempted as kings of a Bourbon empire.

They were still significant reforms, and it's telling that the Revolutions in Latin America only happened after the Napoleonic Wars; the Bourbons had begun centralizing the empire far earlier than that, after all.
 
Well, in my opinion, France would have a larger control of the world, but they would also have to inherit Spain's big debt, so the victory is probably bittersweet here.

For the American colonies, I think France would have to respect their sovernity to gain their support.
 
I am interested in the effects in Germany. I doubt that France would be overly harsh on Austria and Prussia however Bavaria would likly use this as an oportunity to create a sphere of influence in southern Germany. This leads to a situation were Bavaria is crowded by unfirendly, and stronger, nations forcing it to rely on the Bourbon empire to maintain its position.
 
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