Frederick duke of York and Albany has children

as it says on the tin, what changes if Fredrick duke of York and Albany, second son of George III had children by his wife Frederica of Prussia? Perhaps twins, a boy and s girl, born in 1792. One assumes that George IV might not marry with his brother having two children, but if he does marry as otl and has a daughter, would fredericks son be a contender for her hand in marriage or would they look elsewhere? If Charlotte does die as otl, is there still a rush to the Altar for the rest of George III sons with Fred having two kids who likely have kids of their own?
 
as it says on the tin, what changes if Fredrick duke of York and Albany, second son of George III had children by his wife Frederica of Prussia? Perhaps twins, a boy and s girl, born in 1792. One assumes that George IV might not marry with his brother having two children, but if he does marry as otl and has a daughter, would fredericks son be a contender for her hand in marriage or would they look elsewhere? If Charlotte does die as otl, is there still a rush to the Altar for the rest of George III sons with Fred having two kids who likely have kids of their own?
No, they will not marry... Just Cumberland who OTL was already married to his wife at the time of Charlotte's death and is likely who the wedding of Kent with Leopold's sister will still happen
 
No, they will not marry... Just Cumberland who OTL was already married to his wife at the time of Charlotte's death and is likely who the wedding of Kent with Leopold's sister will still happen
Alright interesting so Cumberland and Kent’s marriages are still ago. Interestingly enough with there being no Cambridge marriage that removes a future commander in chief of the forces, meaning the British army could potentially modernise earlier
 
as it says on the tin, what changes if Fredrick duke of York and Albany, second son of George III had children by his wife Frederica of Prussia? Perhaps twins, a boy and s girl, born in 1792. One assumes that George IV might not marry with his brother having two children, but if he does marry as otl and has a daughter, would fredericks son be a contender for her hand in marriage or would they look elsewhere? If Charlotte does die as otl, is there still a rush to the Altar for the rest of George III sons with Fred having two kids who likely have kids of their own?

I don't think it's entirely impossible that George marries Charlotte to her York cousin - she was "in love" with Fred's bastard son, Charles Hesse OTL. And the chief domestic contender against George's preference of the prince of Orange was William, duke of Gloucester (who later married her aunt). However, if Charlotte has anything like her OTL personality, just because her dad is pulling for it probably means that she's immediately turned off.
 
I don't think it's entirely impossible that George marries Charlotte to her York cousin - she was "in love" with Fred's bastard son, Charles Hesse OTL. And the chief domestic contender against George's preference of the prince of Orange was William, duke of Gloucester (who later married her aunt). However, if Charlotte has anything like her OTL personality, just because her dad is pulling for it probably means that she's immediately turned off.
Lol typical father daughter clash eh?
 
Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany (16 August 1763–5 January 1827) M. 1791, Princess Frederica Charlotte of Prussia (7 May 1767 – 6 August 1820)
Prince Edward of York and Albany (Later Edward VII) [1] (23 April 1793-31 October 1876)
Potential wives:
- Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen (13 August 1792 – 2 December 1849)
- Anna Pavlovna of Russia (18 January 1795 — 1 March 1865)
- one of these twins 1) Elisabeth Ludovika of Bavaria (13 November 1801 – 14 December 1873) or 2) Amalie Auguste (13 November 1801–8 November 1877)

Princess Frederica of York and Albany [2] (23 April 1793-7 July 1888)
Potential husbands:
- Christian VIII (18 September 1786–20 January 1848)
- William II (6 December 1792–17 March 1849)
- Frederick William IV (15 October 1795–2 January 1861)

[1] Named after Frederick’s uncle Edward, Duke of York and brother,
[2] Named after her mother and in honour of her father and maternal grandfather, Frederick William II of Prussia.
 
Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany (16 August 1763–5 January 1827) M. 1791, Princess Frederica Charlotte of Prussia (7 May 1767 – 6 August 1820)
Prince Edward of York and Albany (Later Edward VII) [1] (23 April 1793-31 October 1876)
Potential wives:
- Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen (13 August 1792 – 2 December 1849)
- Anna Pavlovna of Russia (18 January 1795 — 1 March 1865)
- one of these twins 1) Elisabeth Ludovika of Bavaria (13 November 1801 – 14 December 1873) or 2) Amalie Auguste (13 November 1801–8 November 1877)

Princess Frederica of York and Albany [2] (23 April 1793-7 July 1888)
Potential husbands:
- Christian VIII (18 September 1786–20 January 1848)
- William II (6 December 1792–17 March 1849)
- Frederick William IV (15 October 1795–2 January 1861)

[1] Named after Frederick’s uncle Edward, Duke of York and brother,
[2] Named after her mother and in honour of her father and maternal grandfather, Frederick William II of Prussia.

Alright quality, I've always quite liked Adelaide for some reason or the other aha, so I think going with her could be quite good.

And for Frederica depending on where Denmark sits during the revolutionary wars this timeline, Christian VIII could be a very good marriage, as could Frederick William IV.
 
I think Adelaide for Edward, and William II for Frederica.

So George IV stays issueless as he only married as a duty to his role to produce an heir.

William stays with his actress. Does Edward marry or just concentrate on his career in the military.

Maybe more of the daughters marry for political and diplomatic ties.
 
From memory - Kent was happy enough living with his long-standing mistress - so with no desperate race to produce an heir then no marriage for him, Clarence and Cambridge likewise are not likely to marry (Cambridge was scouting wives for Clarence when he met the woman he would marry) - though Clarence might still try and marry given he was heavily in debt and was looking for a wife to bail him out.
 
So George IV stays issueless as he only married as a duty to his role to produce an heir.

William stays with his actress. Does Edward marry or just concentrate on his career in the military.

Maybe more of the daughters marry for political and diplomatic ties.

I think Edward, Duke of Kent might marry if the offer is still made that the first prince to marry and produce a kid gets their debts cleared off. And I agree, the daughters marrying for political and diplomatic ties makes sense, the question then arises as to who they would marry.


From memory - Kent was happy enough living with his long-standing mistress - so with no desperate race to produce an heir then no marriage for him, Clarence and Cambridge likewise are not likely to marry (Cambridge was scouting wives for Clarence when he met the woman he would marry) - though Clarence might still try and marry given he was heavily in debt and was looking for a wife to bail him out.

Hmm interesting, would Edward therefore just accept the debts he was in as well? Could William of Clarence marry his brother of Kent's otl wife?
 
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I wonder, would a marriage between Edward of York and Anna Pavlovna be interesting and doable? I imagine that an alliance between the two countries would be what brings about the marriage? And with Edward, I imagine serving in the military for some time, he could get a chance to meet her?
 
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I wonder, would a marriage between Edward of York and Anna Pavlovna be interesting and doable? I imagine that an alliance between the two countries would be what brings about the marriage? And with Edward, I imagine serving in the military for some time, he could get a chance to meet her?
It’s possible for a marriage proposal to be made out during the Congress of Vienna. Any allied nation is plausible when representatives are all present.
 
It’s possible for a marriage proposal to be made out during the Congress of Vienna. Any allied nation is plausible when representatives are all present.
This is very true, Be interesting to see if Anna converts to Anglicanism.

Perhaps Adelaide could marry the son of the duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh?
 
This is very true, Be interesting to see if Anna converts to Anglicanism.

Perhaps Adelaide could marry the son of the duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh?
She converted for William II of the Netherlands, so can’t see why not. Although she doesn’t have to convert l as she isn’t catholic, Russian Orthodox isn’t covered by the accession act, as long as the children are raised as Church of England.

Marrying Adelaide to “Silly Billy” seems crueler lol but isn’t a bad call, freeing Princess Mary for a foreign marriage.
 
She converted for William II of the Netherlands, so can’t see why not. Although she doesn’t have to convert l as she isn’t catholic, Russian Orthodox isn’t covered by the accession act, as long as the children are raised as Church of England.

Marrying Adelaide to “Silly Billy” seems crueler lol but isn’t a bad call, freeing Princess Mary for a foreign marriage.

Hmm this is very true, and of course I do think that would likely happen, so Anna it is then.

And aha, not Silly Billy, his son, Billy junior :p
 
Hmm this is very true, and of course I do think that would likely happen, so Anna it is then.

And aha, not Silly Billy, his son, Billy junior :p
His son Prince William Frederick, Duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh (15 January 1776 – 30 November 1834) was known as Silly Billy

wikipedia said:
He kept more state than the King; he never permitted a gentleman to be seated in his presence (which King George did as an exceptional favour) and expected to be served coffee by the ladies of any party he attended, and that they would stand while he drank it.[9] The general estimate of his capacity is given by his nickname, "Silly Billy"; he was also called "Slice of Gloucester" and "Cheese", a reference to Gloucester cheese.
 
His son Prince William Frederick, Duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh (15 January 1776 – 30 November 1834) was known as Silly Billy
His son Prince William Frederick, Duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh (15 January 1776 – 30 November 1834) was known as Silly Billy

Oh shit, now i feel like an idiot. Aha apologies.

But yeah Silly Billy would be an interesting one? Especially given how conservative Adelaide was supposed to be
 
So, perhaps this for the family of Edward of York and Albany

Edward VII of Great Britain and Ireland (b.1793) m Anna Pavolvna of Russia (b.1795)

Issue:

Frederick (b. 1815)

Charlotte (b.1817)

George (b. 1820)

Sophie (b. 1823)

Frederica (b. 1826)

Edward (b. 1829)
 
So, perhaps this for the family of Edward of York and Albany

Edward VII of Great Britain and Ireland (b.1793) m Anna Pavolvna of Russia (b.1795)

Issue:

Frederick (b. 1815) m. Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine (8 August 1824 – 3 June 1880)

Charlotte (b.1817) m. Adolfe, Grand Duke of Luxembourg (24 July 1817–17 November 1905)

George (b. 1820) m. Grand Duchess Elizabeth Mikhailovna of Russia (26 May 1826-28 January 1845)

Sophie (b. 1823) m. Alexander II (29 April 1818–13 March 1881)

Frederica (b. 1826) m. Charles XV of Sweden and Norway (3 May 1826 – 18 September 1872)

Edward (b. 1829) ~
 
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