@David T would President Harrison's survival in the US mean that we see a different lineup for president come the elections of 1844?
As I've said, https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...-full-term-as-president.535881/#post-23728596 Harrison showed some annoyance at Clay's attempt to make himself the real power in the new administration, so it is conceivable he would favor Webster in 1844. (Harrison had firmly ruled out a second term for himself.) But even if Harrison did try to stop Clay (which is by no means certain) it is doubtful he would succeed--Webster's Federalist background and aristocratic image gave him severe electabilty ptoblems.@David T would President Harrison's survival in the US mean that we see a different lineup for president come the elections of 1844?
so it would be:As I've said, https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...-full-term-as-president.535881/#post-23728596 Harrison showed some annoyance at Clay's attempt to make himself the real power in the new administration, so it is conceivable he would favor Webster in 1844. (Harrison had firmly ruled out a second term for himself.) But even if Harrison did try to stop Clay (which is by no means certain) it is doubtful he would succeed--Webster's Federalist background and aristocratic image gave him severe electabilty ptoblems.
As for the Democrats: Harrison would not inflame the Texas issue the way Tyler did, and it is supposedly the salience of the Texas issue which cost Van Buren the Democratic nomination in 1844. But Texas may just have been an excuse for some of Van Buren's enemies in the Democratic Party. For example, the soft-money, pro-banking faction of the party disliked him and rallied around Cass. And no doubt many Democrats remembered how unpopular his administration had been. In any event, Texas probably does not explain why a considerable number of his nominal supporters in the North defected on the two-thirds rule. https://books.google.com/books?id=2vu99nZ2h7cC&pg=PR10)
??? Are they both widowers? Or is Joseph implying that their morganatic marriages don't count....Ludwig and Johann - both of whom have married morganatically...
...what difference does it make to you, Ludwig? Neither you nor Johann are married or have any children anyway...
Frankie hasn't finished reading the late Emperor's letter - he was interrupted by Ludwig, who was answered by Karl of Teschen and Joseph. Nor has a motion been made to vote on.Frankie: *to Franzi* would you like to call a vote, your Imperial Highness?
^this^Or is Joseph implying that their morganatic marriages don't count.
thanks for catching that, will fixrankie hasn't finished reading the late Emperor's letter - he was interrupted by Ludwig, who was answered by Karl of Teschen and Joseph. Nor has a motion been made to vote on.
left the letter unfinished because I think everyone "knows" where this is going. In fact, it might have been something Franz has spoken on to the ones that matter while he was still aliveFrankie hasn't finished reading the late Emperor's letter - he was interrupted by Ludwig, who was answered by Karl of Teschen and Joseph.
been fixedNor has a motion been made to vote on.
Great Game's already been going since the late 1820s/early 1830s IIRC. Nikolai's visit to London in June 1844 was to try to broker some sort of "agreement" with Britain. OTL it was between him and Victoria's ministers, here, being a little bit "smarter" (if not necessarily wiser), she handles the meeting herself (not that ASB, she did it with Louis Philippe the previous year and later in 1844), not sure why she didn't do it with Nicky OTL. Chalk it up to the fact that the crown was given some shares in the EIC when the monarchy's finances were reorganized, so she has a personal stake in the matterWill Russia and britain agoid the foolish great game here?
It has been a long time since I was invoked.I defer to those familiar with the regions in question, but is it possible that Henri encourages the planting of rice, indigo and tea in the "wetter"/"marshier" places in the Auvergne/Dombes? The proposal was originally made by several aristocrats in the dying years of Louis XV's reign/beginning of Louis XVI's (the duc de Luynes being one name that I remember reading), but it never took off. They also proposed establishing cotton farms in the Gironde/Navarre region, but were met with considerable opposition from the cotton farmers up near Nantes (didn't know there were cotton farms there).
Regarding Dombes: I know at this time there was a bill in the French parliament to close down and drain the fish farms from a railway perspective. But as early as 1900, the bill was already being reversed and several of the dams and fisheries re-established/rebuilt (I suspect it was due to the fact that the railways might not have brought in as much money as promised/expected).
Lastly, according to the maps there seems to be a very large coal basin in current Haut-Savoie (mining starting in 1750), should Henri encourage mining there? From what I can make out it seems very stop-start-stop start (1750, shut down at the Revolution, begun again during the reign of Carlo Alberto, shut down again, begin again, shut down again, all the way to reopening in 1940 but being closed in 1950.
@Comte de Dordogne
pretty sure his wife will say the same thing if he went backwards as quickly as Angoulême did OTL (which is what I based it off of). Having seen such a thing first-hand, I can only think that Marie Amélie was agreeing to Henri's invitations to appear with him in public just to "get away". And Angoulême can't "be discreet" and recommend Orléans "retire to the country" without jaws flapping about how he's "gonna root out any dissent". Besides, keeping him in Paris avoids any accusation of "foul play".And so Orleans is finally off the mortal coil, well, can't say i'll miss him.
visiting Ireland?Victoria and Albert sure have good sense.
perhaps even a burial at St-Denis? Albeit not as "king of the French" but as a mere duc d'Orléans (after all, until the chapelle at Dreux was built, the Orléans were interred at St-Denis weren't they?)Louis XIX can do with a little more patience, he won the crown and may as well Showcase himself a good Sport and give Orleans Mourning.