Hm…i like Frankie and Amelie together, and I’m intrigued to see how things develop in regards to Mexico.
No doubt both sides are very unhappy about it. The Bonaparte feeling they deserve actual royalty (OTL Mathilde regarded herself as a good enough partner for a son of Louis Philippe or Nikolai I, and Eugènie, a bona fide countess was not seen as "good enough") while families like the Uzes and Grammonts feel like they are parvenus. However, as Henri points out: Frankie can sell sand to a camel. As distasteful as a Bonaparte match is, Mathilde and Montfort are both still royalty via their mom (a legitimate princess) while Agénor de Grammont's maternal grandma is a Württemberg BASTARD. Frankie can simply phrase it as "so you're snobby enough to accept a Grammont via a bastard but not a Bonaparte via a legitimate princess. No wonder you're here [at Frohsdorf] not there [Paris]". Frédéric (called Fritz OTL) Bacchiochi they likewise can't sneer at as Madame de Maillé does: the Bacchiochi-Levoys (he likely goes as "Comte Bacchiochi-Levoy" at Frohsdorf) are an old but impoverished aristocratic family. The daughter of Louis Napoléon being offered to Polignac is also half-Beauharnais (old French aristocratic family, in fact, the Beauharnais had honneurs de cour long before (1667) the Polignacs got it in 1739, although the families are roughly of equal age (if we don't count the first house of Polignac that goes back all the way to the 10th century).A Bonaparte marriage to an ultra-royalist. Oh, my.
as Hortense points out, possibly in a way that's far more indelible than his father's. Because, much as Metternich dislikes Frankie, he's being far more subtle about it than Napoléon ever was. In fact subtle enough that most persons don't even realzie that he's doing anything weird. The marriages of his cousins for instance. He's not doing something radical like forcing a family like the Uzes or the Grammonts to accept Republican Lucien's kid as a daughter-in-law or attempting to force a Rohan or a de la Trémoïlle to accept a match to a bastard (Napoléonne [like goes by Hélène here] de Montholon is officially the daughter of the marquis de Montholon-Sermonville, even if everyone knows who her dad is). He's matching persons who can really have no objections to marrying down (like the Polignacs) when really, aside from the most recent duke's disastrous government, the Polignacs are relatively undistinguished either politically or militarily. The Beauharnais (and Tascher de la Pageries), by contrast have a history of being governors of New France, Martinique, almoners to Louis XVI's mother, etc etc.Frankie is truly leaving his mark on the international scene
I’m intrigued to see how things develop in regards to Mexico.
I know right? No offense to other TLs on L'Aiglon, (I've sort of deliberately avoided reading them to avoid comparisons) but the usual order from discussions on his survival is that he's either gonna wind up in France in 1830 or in Italy, where Metternich deliberstely tried to keep him away from OTL. And then he basically either recreates the First French Empire or the Roman Empire. While Frankie WAS an ambitious son-of-a-bitch (once announcing that he would mount God's throne if the deity would obligingly step aside), I tend to group the sources on him into two main categories: Bonapartist (who believe him to be his dad reborn and attempt to portray him as wanting nothing but the throne stolen from him) and anti-Bonapartist (who see him as genetically evil, and where ideas such as honour, loyalty or tradition are completely alien).Finally caught up with the thread. Even if all the details might need a spreadsheet to keep track of, the idea of Frankie combining his father's ambition with the diplomatic chess preferred by his Habsburg family is simply too fun to ignore.
Its vague. He's in Reichstadt. And Frankie's absent but his posse is all there, so it could be referrig to him as wellWhen Franzi talks about his beloved uncle does he mean goodinand?
Tbh, I don't think anyone expected Ferdinand to visit. In the capacity as the "king's presence", it was the Palatine who could be expected to come to the location. Still, Ferdinand's visit could muster a great amount of goodwill from the citizens of Óbuda, Buda and Pest (and the future Újpest), which could possibly influence events in 1848.@Fehérvári I couldn't find if the royals did visit Hungary after the flood in 1838, but if they didn't, it would be a very clear indication that, despite being king of Hungary, the welfare of his subjects is not very high on either Franz or Goodinand's list of priorities.
The most important development of that would be if the regulation works of the Danube's banks could be hastened/started early. Rebuilding efforts further from the river began quickly and progressed smoothly even IOTL, AFAIK.Here, instead, they get to see the damage - granted, probably only the "better part" of the damage - caused by the flood, and listen to Joseph/Lonyay's plans for Buda's "rising from the ashes" rather than have to deal with it by mail.
I'm glad to hear that what I have planned is plausibleTbh, I don't think anyone expected Ferdinand to visit. In the capacity as the "king's presence", it was the Palatine who could be expected to come to the location. Still, Ferdinand's visit could muster a great amount of goodwill from the citizens of Óbuda, Buda and Pest (and the future Újpest), which could possibly influence events in 1848.
The most important development of that would be if the regulation works of the Danube's banks could be hastened/started early. Rebuilding efforts further from the river began quickly and progressed smoothly even IOTL, AFAIK.
Can't wait to read it!I'm glad to hear that what I have planned is plausible
could we see this (allowing less popular policies) also be used as a "weapon" to encourage industry (minor at first) in Hungary. Probably at the first, improving roads and transport between towns, or with railways (which I'd imagine the magnates would be very against), but then branching out in other directions?Can't wait to read it!
If you're planning to create some bigger stirs in Hungary, know that the promise of territorial integrity (administrative and political) could sway a lot of people in both the Diet and among the masses. Championing the idea could allow even less popular policies being pushed through the legislation (like the mandated and state-compensated liberation of serfdom), or could prevent more radical ideas from taking ground (like the separate Hungarian tariff barriers on foreign manufactured products).
Why would they oppose railways? I don't remember being any kind of opposition to railway constructions IOTL. At the time, the biggest debate concerning the railway was about the exact route of the first line. More specifically, the question was about which side of the Danube should the line connecting Buda-Pest and Vienna be built on. IOTL, the left-bankers won, so the first railway to be built in Hungary was the Pest-Vác line.could we see this (allowing less popular policies) also be used as a "weapon" to encourage industry (minor at first) in Hungary. Probably at the first, improving roads and transport between towns, or with railways (which I'd imagine the magnates would be very against), but then branching out in other directions?
because I'm a dumbass and thought they wouldWhy would they oppose railways?
Would that still be the case here? Or is it one of those common sense things that aren't likely to changeI don't remember being any kind of opposition to railway constructions IOTL. At the time, the biggest debate concerning the railway was about the exact route of the first line. More specifically, the question was about which side of the Danube should the line connecting Buda-Pest and Vienna be built on. IOTL, the left-bankers won, so the first railway to be built in Hungary was the Pest-Vác line.
Cool. And I could see how the latter would definitely be favoured by a "centralizing" governmentTo actually answer your question, yes, there could be some industry-supporting policies pushed through. Aside from the previously mentioned abolition of serfdom, the abolition of guilds could also push the country towards development, but the curtailing of county autonomy (in regards to tax collection) could also be useful.
Oh very much soWow, frankie's been busy.
well, since I haven't thought about it, I suppose it couldAnd hope this petty plot doesnt get him off his stride