Francization of the Netherlands

While reading about the Francization of Brussels, it got me wondering. Say Charles the Bold wins at Nancy and has a son after that, thus keeping the Duchy of Burgundy united with the Netherlands. If this continued for several centuries (say somehow into the 1800s) would it be possible that French would overtake Dutch as the majority language in Burgundy (because of its use in administration and elsewhere, gradually filtering down to the average people), so by the 1800s the Low Countries were primarily French-speaking? Would that be conceivable?
 
I wouldn't say that French were to replace the Dutch language; in OTL it already was the main language spoken by the upper class. I can imagine the language adopting alot more French words, but a complete replacement isn't to be expected.
 
For the big shift, you would have to look post-1800. Upper-class languages spread to many parts of premodern Europe, displacing native tongues, and it was quite common in many areas that townsfolk, nobles and peasants spoke sifferent languages at home. This Burgundy could easily match the pattern. But the large-scale language shifts that made Germany German-speaking and France French-speaking didn't come until nation states discovered mandatory schools.
 
I'd see the opposite as more likely. The French speaking areas and ultimatly the nobility would switch to Dutch. The Dutch parts was where all the wealth was.
Also assuming a Burgundy totally split from France they would need some form of seperate national identity.

But I don't see Burgundy itself being held though, France will take that eventually. It could probally keep a lot of lands in OTL NE France though.
 
I'd see the opposite as more likely. The French speaking areas and ultimatly the nobility would switch to Dutch. The Dutch parts was where all the wealth was.
Also assuming a Burgundy totally split from France they would need some form of seperate national identity.

But I don't see Burgundy itself being held though, France will take that eventually. It could probally keep a lot of lands in OTL NE France though.

I think if the capital / court moved back to / stayed in Dijon, the center would not have shifted north to Brussels. So with the core of this Burgundy in the actual French-speaking Duchy of Burgundy, Dutch might not have penetrated as much as you postulate. Some research suggests that under Charles the Bold and others, French was widely spoken in the Netherlands by the upper classes. So if the center remained in a French area, might that happen?
 
I think if the capital / court moved back to / stayed in Dijon, the center would not have shifted north to Brussels. So with the core of this Burgundy in the actual French-speaking Duchy of Burgundy, Dutch might not have penetrated as much as you postulate. Some research suggests that under Charles the Bold and others, French was widely spoken in the Netherlands by the upper classes. So if the center remained in a French area, might that happen?

The French would have eventually wanted Dijon and the other core areas back though.
Either that or Burgundy would take over and become France.
And the nobility of large swathes of Europe spoke French at the time.
 
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