Francis II lives

Francis II of France was married to Mary Queen of Scots, and therefore was King Consort of Scotland. Any children of theirs would have been monarch of France and Scotland, and would also have a strong claim to the throne of England.

Francis died at the age of sixteen, but what would have happened if he had lived and had sons?
 

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Francis II of France was married to Mary Queen of Scots, and therefore was King Consort of Scotland. Any children of theirs would have been monarch of France and Scotland, and would also have a strong claim to the throne of England.

Francis died at the age of sixteen, but what would have happened if he had lived and had sons?
England-Scotland-France under one king would probably be unsustainable, but interesting...1603's a bit early for parliament to arbitrarily award the throne to someone else, so the line through Margaret Tudor would still put the Scottish king first in line to the throne when Liz kicks the bucket, even if he's also the King of France...
 
England-Scotland-France under one king would probably be unsustainable, but interesting...1603's a bit early for parliament to arbitrarily award the throne to someone else, so the line through Margaret Tudor would still put the Scottish king first in line to the throne when Liz kicks the bucket, even if he's also the King of France...

Would probably force her to marry...
 
Maybe, but there was a lot of incentive for that OTL and it didn't happen...

True. Either way it is a pretty huge change, and has some immense consequences, not least religiously. I could see the nobility in England offering the crown to someone else on religious grounds. Not sure who the next in line was...
 

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True. Either way it is a pretty huge change, and has some immense consequences, not least religiously. I could see the nobility in England offering the crown to someone else on religious grounds. Not sure who the next in line was...
AFAIK there wasn't another Tudor-connected claimant after the Stuarts.

Which could almost blow open another War of the Roses, on top of everything else...
 
AFAIK there wasn't another Tudor-connected claimant after the Stuarts.

Which could almost blow open another War of the Roses, on top of everything else...

According to Wikipedia:

The will of Henry VIII had declared that Elizabeth was to be succeeded by the descendants of his younger sister, Mary Tudor, Duchess of Suffolk, rather than by the Scottish descendants of his elder sister, Margaret Tudor. If the will were upheld, then Elizabeth would have been succeeded by Lady Anne Stanley. If, however, the rules of male primogeniture were upheld, the successor would be James VI, King of Scotland. Still other claimants were possible; they included Edward Seymour, Lord Beauchamp of Hache (the illegitimate son of the Lady Catherine Grey) and William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby (Lady Anne Stanley's uncle).

They don't sound very convincing candidates though.
What about a TL in which the English crown goes to one of them, and Mary's son invades with a Franco-Scots army?
 
Francis II of France was married to Mary Queen of Scots, and therefore was King Consort of Scotland. Any children of theirs would have been monarch of France and Scotland, and would also have a strong claim to the throne of England.

Francis died at the age of sixteen, but what would have happened if he had lived and had sons?
We are looking at a better-than-even chance of one Scot faction or another kicking out the Viceroy and setting up a local branch of the Stuarts on the throne (an explicit Calvinist Theocracy is a thought, but unlikely to be viable)

Gloriana may poke her nose in too.

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According to Wikipedia:



They don't sound very convincing candidates though.
What about a TL in which the English crown goes to one of them, and Mary's son invades with a Franco-Scots army?
I understand that even in OTL, Parliament sent their fastest messenger to deliver Elizabeth's great seal to James in Edinburgh (he managed it in 3 days, with changes of horses) because they were afraid that the claim was not absolute enough for a bunch of pretenders not to spring up in the interim period. All the more so in the case like this.
 
How long does Francois II live?

If his son is a minor, then you will simply have the OTL power struggle between the Regent (I assume Mary) and the Guises. You also have the beginning of the Wars of Religion in France. I wonder if Mary's responsibilities to her son would keep her tied down in France and make it impossible for her to pursue her claims in Scotland.
 
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