Former Colonies w/ Uber-France

some of you may have seen my map of a "greater france" that was created following the napoleonic wars (and possibly by one of napoleon's descendants rather than nappy himself). to sum it up very simply, france annexes the low countries, OTL germany, and part of western poland after occupying that region as a buffer zone against their enemies for many years. because these countries had their own nobility and their aristocracy would probably be imprisoned, made into puppets, or executed by teh french, what could become of their colonies? for my ATL, i currently have it so that some of these colonies are also annexed by france, but some declare independence and essentially become successor states on foreign soil to their home countries. for instance, i currently have it set up that britain maintains control of western South Africa while the western regions are dominated by boer republics that britain sympathizes since they were allies in the napoleonic wars.

anyway, what's the real plausibility of this? if its too implausible, what can i do to MAKE it plausible?
 
I think French Egypt, would definitely be included in an Uber-France. Maybe even the Hejjaz and Levant.
 
some of you may have seen my map of a "greater france" that was created following the napoleonic wars (and possibly by one of napoleon's descendants rather than nappy himself). to sum it up very simply, france annexes the low countries, OTL germany, and part of western poland after occupying that region as a buffer zone against their enemies for many years. because these countries had their own nobility and their aristocracy would probably be imprisoned, made into puppets, or executed by teh french, what could become of their colonies? for my ATL, i currently have it so that some of these colonies are also annexed by france, but some declare independence and essentially become successor states on foreign soil to their home countries. for instance, i currently have it set up that britain maintains control of western South Africa while the western regions are dominated by boer republics that britain sympathizes since they were allies in the napoleonic wars.

anyway, what's the real plausibility of this? if its too implausible, what can i do to MAKE it plausible?
Do you have this map?
 
i do. technically, its not relevant to this discussion, since im specifically asking for territory outside of europe, but i'll post it anyway. i havent included labels here, and the provincial borders were decided upon more for my own sake than for anything else.

i was wondering about french middle eastern territories. what do you think could be potential problems with an arab league-like entity?

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Well the only colonies would be the Dutch colonies would'nt they?

Dutch Guyana would just be merged into French Guyana.

The Dutch East Indies would likely become like French Indochina, a mixture of directly controlled territories and protectorates (who might as well be directly ruled).

Britain woould probably intercede in some cases, primarily with colonies near India, which I doubt the French would go to war over.
 
Well Egypt was the first great conquest of Napoleon. He tried to persuade the Egyptians that the French Deists were closer alligned to Islam than Catholicism. Even a few of his army converted.
 
well im still working out the exact POD here (but it definitively concerns napoleon) but im currently leaning towards at least one earlier in the napoleonic wars, with waterloo being the absolute latest. it could very well be that italy is pro-french and itself gets the rest of the peninsula through agreements with the pope and france following the war. i DO find it rather difficult to come up with a colonial empire for the italians as well that dont conflict with my analogue to the arab league, so maybe it could be that both france AND italy run the african colonies, and though france technically runs the colonies, italy has a major say on those matters
 
Population wise your map looks like in the long run France will become a subject of Uber-Germany which will out produce and out populate France.

France with direct colonial control over Egypt makes more sense than France trying to directly rule all of Germany.
 
There was a thread burried away in this forum about Napoleon declaring himself Emperor of the French, Italians and Germans, to ressurect the Frankish Empire of Charlemagne. Maybe something that could work? It would include France, the Low Countires, Germany, Switzerland and at least northern Italy.
 
now there's an idea. my original intent was to have france at least occupy much of the territory that they conquered and later annex it or, through agreements with the other countries, return it to them. switzerland i was planning to have maintain its neutrality, and maybe if italy helped out france, napoleon or one of his descendants would be more willing to let it self-govern

also, what do you all think about boer republics as successor states to holland persisting to the present day? i was basically planning for them to share the same general region not only with native africans but also with portuguese colonists and the british dominion of south africa (which would be slightly reduced to accomodate the boers)
 
some of you may have seen my map of a "greater france" that was created following the napoleonic wars (and possibly by one of napoleon's descendants rather than nappy himself). to sum it up very simply, france annexes the low countries, OTL germany, and part of western poland after occupying that region as a buffer zone against their enemies for many years.

A French Empire annexing all OTL Germany and western Poland is a little ASB.

And only the Netherlands had colonies, so yours questions is about the Cape Colony (UK will do the same as OTL) and Dutch Indonesia. Between British India and Bristish Australia, these islands will become UK colonies as Birma, Malaya, Borneo...

A French Empire will a Empire with border on the Pyrennes, on the Alp, with french speaking parts of Swiss, on the Rhine in the east and the north. Maybe this Empire will need to let Antwerpen and a part of the flemish coast or the mouth of the Rhine to an independant Netherlands to appease the UK...

Even if the Napoleon annexed the Kingdom of Holland and the north-western coast of Germany, to make peace with the UK, these territories will need to be release. Probably as allies of the UK on the continent : Netherlands Kingdom under a Orange dinasty and a Kingdom of Hannover under a cousin of the british royal family...

Poland will be probably a ally of Napoleon but with Warsaw and Galicia (Krakow), two of the most important towns for Poles, the capital and the former capital...

Also Napoleon was of corsican origin, he had more ties with territory in Italy than in Germany... His son of law, Eugene was the Vice-Roy of Italy, his son was the King of Rome...

If a French Empire will expand, first it will be in the Med : Algeria it's south of France (OTL conquest in 1830), Egypt as in 1799, the Levant (Syria, Lebanon, Palestine) for the christian and francophile minorities and maybe to create a jewish homeland around Jerusalem because Napoleon was very friendly to the Jews... Probably Greece will be liberated from Ottoman rule...

Best way to please the Russian Empire was to conquer together the Ottoman Empire...

From Algeria and from Egypt, the French Empire will begin colonization of Africa from the north, Soudan, Sahara region, western coast of Africa, along the Red Sea... A french empire will build the Canal of Suez...
 
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Looks like uber France might be more German than French. It makes more sense for a greater France to take control of areas like northern Italy and Catalonia.
 
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