Force levels 1993

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I am looking for information on NATO force levels (Amry, Airforce and Naval) in Germany in 1993 including French units.

I am also looking for information on the organisation of the Polish forces at the same time.

Any hints of good places to look?
 

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What is this for?

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=154153

Jane's did a series of NATO handbooks; Amazon has the 1991-1992 one, which should be a good starting point.

http://www.amazon.com/Janes-Handboo...9760/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1290016720&sr=8-5

I have the 1988-1989 edition and it covers national forces levels and deployments in good detail down to battalion level and below.

Thats an idea - I have a second hand book shop near me I will have a look to see if they have something for that year. Hopefully it will say where the units are not just what they are.

I have the Janes Military review for 1982-3 but that has a far higher level view. But it does mention the French II corp being in Germany at that time.
 
The UK has the third largest declared military expenditure in the world, after the United States and China. It is also the second largest spender on military science, engineering and technology. Despite Britain's wide ranging capabilities, recent defence policy has a stated assumption that any large operation would be undertaken as part of a coalition. Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan (Herrick), Iraq (Granby, Desert Fox and Telic) may all be taken as precedent—indeed the last large scale military action in which the British armed forces fought alone was the Falklands War of 1982, in which it was victorious.
The Royal Navy is the second-largest navy of the NATO alliance, in terms of the combined displacement of its fleet, after the United States Navy, with 87 commissioned ships. The Naval Service (which comprises the Royal Navy and Royal Marines) had a strength of 42,700 and is charged with custody of the United Kingdom's strategic nuclear deterrent consisting of four Trident missile submarines, while the Royal Marines provide commando units for amphibious assault and for specialist reinforcement forces in and beyond the NATO area. The British Army had a strength of 150,240 while the Royal Air Force had a strength of 46,800. This puts the total number of active armed forces personnel at around 240,000, nine percent of whom were women.


And this is the numbers you were looking for for the Uk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Armed_Forces#Personnel

Following the 1981-3 reorganisation, the Corps consisted of 1st and 4th Armoured Divisions, which would have manned the front line against the anticipated attack by the Soviet 3rd Shock Army, plus in an in-depth, reserve role the 3rd Armoured Division and finally the 2nd Infantry Division which was tasked with rear-area security.[42]
1st Armoured Division
7th Armoured Brigade
12th Armoured Brigade
22nd Armoured Brigade
3rd Armoured Division (HQ St. Sebastian Barracks, Soest)
4th Armoured Brigade
6th Armoured Brigade
19th Infantry Brigade (in UK)
4th Armoured Division
11th Armoured Brigade
20th Armoured Brigade
33rd Armoured Brigade
2nd Infantry Division
15th Infantry Brigade
24th Infantry Brigade
49th Infantry Brigade
Artillery Division (HQ Ripon Barracks, Bielefeld)
With the end of the Cold War, I (BR) Corps was redesignated in 1992 as a NATO Rapid Reaction Corps under SACEUR and renamed as Headquarters Allied Command Europe Rapid Reaction Corps. HQ ARRC moved to Rheindahlen in 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_I_Corps
 
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I found what looks like a good source for 1989 now if I can just find the same for 1993

http://www.orbat.com/site/history/historical/nato/oob1989.html

Unlikely; that list was created (and is still being updated, BTW) by a group doing it for a wargaming project. Hence, the date. A lot of people (myself included) feel that's the last year that a conventional WWIII would be anything but a walkover. The Warsaw Pact had just barely started their draw-down, NATO forces were at their peak, the USSR was still, from the outside, standing tall...

However, the cited sources from the proper year should allow similar data to be extracted.
 

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yes - I think finding figurs like that for 1993 (for my ISOT timeline) will be a lot harder.

I may just use those numbers and draw them down a bit if I can not find anything useful...
 

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maybe I need to change my upstream time to the day of reunification....

nah - cos I want the poles there as well just have to work harder on finding the data it mustbe there somewhere
 
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