For Want of A Sandwich - A Franz Ferdinand Lives Wikibox TL

[TheDetailer]

I will think about their careers.
Orson Welles dabbled for a time in Progressive politics and was as a whole more able to get his projects funded, such as Don Quixote. His Heart of Darkness can be already seen thanks to found footage IOTL ; it's still there, with as many versions as you can get due to Welles returning on his earlier projects, and it's a seminal work of cinema, with no one daring to make a remake.

What other cancelled films IOTL were made ITTL?

: as such, Satoshi Kon is a household name.

That’s cool! He deserves it too. Is Satoshi still alive or did he still unexpectedly pass away in 2010?

 

[RedKaisar]

So will be there future war between Malaya and Thailand in the future? Also do you plan on expanding Malaya and other Malay Peninsular states?

 

[X_X]

Lebanon is a country in the Middle East, bordered by the Hashemite Empire on the north, east and south and by the Mediterranean Sea in the west.

History
The Great European War changed considerably the state of the Middle East and Lebanon, that had been effectively a joint Maronite-Druze protectorate during the Ottoman era, found itself integrated into a wider Pan-Arabic empire : the Greater Arab Kingdom, soon to become the Hashemite Caliphate. Save for a Druze revolt from 1925 to 1927, fearing that they would lose their power in the region, the Lebanese were overall supportive of the Pan-Arabic cause, as long as it stressed race over religion. Mostly known as Christian Arabs, politicians from Mount Lebanon invested themselves in Hashemite politics, mostly on the liberal, progressive side, pushing for an agenda that would accommodate Arabs of all confessions.

The 1958 military coup and the assassination of the Caliph in Damascus crystallized fears of a destabilization of the Hashemite Empire that would mean doom for the Christian populations, subjected to pogroms as Zionist migrants had been in the 1940s : as a result, Mount Lebanon, that was back then a mere region of the Empire, erupted in a revolt on August 1959, asking for the immediate return of democracy. The Majali regime immediately responded by shelling Beirut for a week, ending on 19 August, and putting the region under martial law. In 1960, the worst fears of Lebanese nationalists materialized when the Dhimmi Code was reformed, extending it to Christian inhabitants of the Hashemite Empire. This setback in Lebanon led to the rise of the Phoenician Phalange, a pyrist organization led by the Gemayel family, that asked for the immediate independence of Lebanon as a Christian-only country, seeing the failure of the Pan-Arabic status quo. The return of democracy in the 1970s in the Hashemite Empire allowed the abolition of the Dhimmi Code in 1970 and the granting of autonomy to the Mount Lebanon Region on 21 July 1971, acknowledging its special status and allowing a certain degree of policymaking for the Christians, similar to states’ rights in the United States. Nevertheless, this decision definitely separated the fate of Lebanon from the wider Empire and did everything to empower the Gemayels.

When the Hashemite Civil War broke out in 1982, the Phalange seized control of Beirut and the major cities and unilaterally proclaimed independence. The pyrist rule of Pierre Gemayel saw persecution of Muslim, Druze and Jewish inhabitants, resulting in international recognition being turned down flat by the World Council and limited to likeminded regimes such as Italy, the Ottoman Empire or South Africa. Lebanon would also count on an influx of young volunteers from Europe and America, bent on “protecting a Christian people in the Middle East”, many of these returning and joining the ranks of far right terrorist groups. Phalangist rule in Lebanon would last throughout the Hashemite Civil War, the entry of Hashemite troops in a totally destroyed Beirut on Christmas 1985 effectively ending it. The scions of the Gemayel family were either arrested or went into exile and the few that remained of Lebanese cities were put under matial law. With the return of democracy, Lebanon recovered its special status in 1990, with the diaspora funding the reconstruction of the country.

On 1 June 1998, the World Council, concerned about the instability of the Hashemite Empire and the risks of hate crimes targeting Christian Arabs, agreed with Damascus to turn Mount Lebanon into an International Free Mandate, on the model of Tangiers, in order to have progress and reconstruction internationally monitored and avoid the quagmire of the Civil War. A first referendum on independence held in 2005 allowed Lebanon to become effectively a World Council protectorate within the Hashemite Empire, until a new referendum in 2019 confirmed, by 61 %, the will of the Lebanese people to become independent. Thus Lebanon became the newest country in the world, becoming independent on 1 January 2020.

Political situation
Having had self rule since 1998 under the auspices of the World Council, Lebanon had been an established democratic system, with elections every five years to elect Parliament. The unicameral chamber elects the President of the Republic, who has only ceremonial power, and appoints the Prime Minister; as such, the Constitution of Lebanon has been inspired by the French Sixth Republic, owing to the long present Francophilia of the Lebanese. Common law is also inspired by the French Code Civil. The General Commissioner, appointed by the World Council upon agreement from the Hashemite government, had far more powers than the President.

The Constitution nevertheless has a twist : it is an unitary parliamentary Christian constitutional republic. Since 2009, the pyrist and ultranationalist Phoenician Phalange Party has held a majority in Parliament, and even if violence is far less virulent than during the Civil War, it still restricts Lebanese citizenship to Christian citizens and stresses the importance of Maronite faith in its national values, hereby prohibiting abortion or euthanasia. In the Maronite-majority Mount Lebanon, that forms the frame of the country, the situation is more bearable that it would have been in the far more multiethnic Greater Lebanon, but Muslims, Jews and Druzes are now officially second-tier citizens, in a twist of history as the Phalangists had protested the Dhimmi Code before.

Since 7 June 2009, the Prime Minister has been Pierre Amine Gemayel, also known as Pierre Jr., Rais (leader) of the Phoenician Phalange Party (pyrist), who was reelected in 2014 and 2019. The grandson of the elder Pierre Gemayel, nephew to his successor Bachir Gemayel, Pierre Junior is considered as the new face of the Phalangist movement, having toned down his pyrist rhetoric and corporatism but still authoritarian in nature. The fragmented opposition has yet to assemble. The first President, elected by the Parliament on 31 December 2019 for a six-year term, is Carlos Ghosn (independent), a former businessman born into the Lebanese diaspora in Brazil, whose family returned in virtue of the Lebanese law of return and to flee the Second Brazilian Civil War.

Social situation, population
One of the densest countries in the world, Lebanon has a rather middle-aged population, allowing the country to enjoy a steady economic growth since the 1980s, that didn’t suffer from the setbacks of the 2000s ; mostly urban, the Lebanese population is still growing, thanks to its high standards of living that attract foreign migrants (from China, India or Africa) but also from a very accomodating law of return, modeled on Armenia’s, destined to its extensive diaspora, even more numerous than its population and disseminated on the five continents. The pyrist Constitution of Lebanon has limited citizenship to majority Christian population (either they are Maronite, Orthodox, Protestant or Catholic), with its Shia, Sunni, Druze or Jewish minorities being officially “permanent residents”, no matter if their families were present for centuries in Mount Lebanon ; due to Christian values being inscribed in the Constitution, prostitution, homosexuality, abortion, blasphemy and euthanasia are all crimes punishable by jail. As such, Lebanon is widely seen as an authoritarian and discriminating regime.

For the citizens, however, Lebanon is a country that has many facilities to offer, from all brand new hospitals, universities, schools and public transportation, coming along with a strong welfare state that ranks Lebanon high in worldwide rankings… as long as you are a Christian or rich. As evidence, the effects of the Wuchang pneumonia were barely felt in Lebanon, that had managed to put in place a very restrictive health policy and a strong vaccination campaign.

Economy
Confined to Mount Lebanon and not Greater Lebanon, the young nation has been traditionally turned towards the Mediterreanean Sea and foreign trade. Lebanon’s proportion of cultivable land being among the highest in the Middle East, Lebanon nevertheless manages to sustain itself, with major products including apples, peaches, oranges and lemons. Industry is limited to small business and importation, making Lebanon a country heavily invested on services, tourism and finance, with Beirut remaining a major financial hub and a renowned destination for start-ups and entrepreneurs, drawn by the climate, the high tech facilities of Beirut and its stability. In spite of the Wuchang pneumonia striking the year of its independence, shutting most of tourism and trade, Lebanon nevertheless managed to remain steady thanks to banking and finance. The financial presence of the diaspora is also noticeable, Lebanese migrants being known for their entrepreneurship (an example being President Carlos Ghosn himself), with many redistributing parts of their wealth in the motherland, thanks to tax reductions. Currently in negotiations to establish a treaty of free trade with the European Community, Lebanon is also arm wrestling with Greece and the Hashemite Empire about oil located between its shores and Cyprus… While looking forward to the ongoing crisis in Mesopotamia, with a way to profit from the chaos that would result.

Military
Even if the process of independence was smooth, the Hashemite Empire was harsh on limiting the future Lebanese Armed Forces, placing strict limitations on military equipment, armored vehicles, warships and aviation. It did nothing to secure the paranoid Phalangists, who remembered the Civil War and knew that, being surrounded by the Hashemites, they would capitulate almost immediately in the event of a war. Even if Lebanon officially proclaims its neutrality, military service is compulsory and the military has spent massively in informatic warfare and is looking forward to Bulgarian and Japanese efforts on battle androids.

Culture
Inhabited for millenia by various civilizations (Phoenicians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Persians, Arabs, Crusaders, Ottomans, Arabs…), Lebanon has been considered, for most of the 20th Century, as one of the liveliest cultural centers of the Middle East, home to Francophile and Pan-Arabic intellectuals, present in visual arts, architecture, literature (Elias Khoury, Amin Maalouf), music (Fairuz), cinema (Nadine Labaki, Ziad Doueiri), cuisine and sports. Utterly destroyed during the Hashemite Civil War, Beirut has since been reconstructed thanks to the efforts of the locals and the diaspora and is a modern smart city, where cultural and festive life is still thriving, at least hidden from the morals of the state and under the symbol of the Cedar.

Even though Lebanon was a major force in the intellectual conception of Pan-Arabism, Phalangist rhetoric has unsuccessfully tried to portray Lebanon as the cradle of a distinct identity, Phoenicia, directly related to the ancient civilization, having been forcibly assimilated by the Arab invaders. That theory failed to gain traction, due to the wide use of the Arabic language and the full extent of the diaspora, and was abandoned during the days of Bachir Gemayel. In religious matters, the Christian republic has cultivated his proximity with the Maronite Church and engaged in oecumenic discuission, stressing their full communion with the Pope and the worldwide Catholic Church while celebrating its self-governance.

“From the mountains to the sea, Lebanon will be free!” -Phalangist slogan

 

[KDS]

I considered that it might be, but her title appears that way twice, both as Carl XVI Gustav's wife and as Carl XVII Philip's mother.

Would that be the OTL Queen of Spain?

 

[MaskedPickle]

 

[MaskedPickle]

Thanks! Really want to see the lives of those 2 Portuguese kings!

Thank you !

I'm curious about Sophia of Greece and LondonDenmark, who is apparently the Swedish queen mother - the latter half of her title seems surprising, both in orthography and geography.

I think that London is mistake.

And prince/princess of Greece and Denmark was real title used by Greek royals in OTL.

I considered that it might be, but her title appears that way twice, both as Carl XVI Gustav's wife and as Carl XVII Philip's mother.

Would that be the OTL Queen of Spain?

Sorry for the mistake and yes, she is Queen Sofia of Spain. IOTL.

Speaking of which, what would Russia have called their equivalents to the KV and IS tanks?

What would be the Russian equivalent of landship ?

What other cancelled films IOTL were made ITTL?


That’s cool! He deserves it too. Is Satoshi still alive or did he still unexpectedly pass away in 2010?

That's a long list ! Alas, Satoshi Kon is still dead. Butterflies can't avoid cancer.

So will be there future war between Malaya and Thailand in the future? Also do you plan on expanding Malaya and other Malay Peninsular states?

Writing upon them for sure, as of war... Let's say the balance is very precarious !

“From the mountains to the sea, Lebanon will be free!” -Phalangist slogan

The Phalangist yoke continues...

 

[KDS]

What are the relations between Germany, UK, US, Russia and China (basically major powers) in the 21st Century? Is the UK actively allied to Germany other than regarding Azania? Are they even allied or just co-belligerents of sorts? Is UK part of the RP/EEC? Is Russia? And concerning the flashpoint between the Hashemite Empire and Iran, who is siding with who?

 

[Whiteshore]

What would be the Russian equivalent of landship ?

Thinking more of who they’d be named after. Maybe the OR tanks after Tsarina Olga?

 

[KDS]

With all the advances in technology (space travel, cloning, etc.) What is the level of weapons technology compared to OTL?. Are drones being used widely, laser artillery, maybe some of the "futuristic" armors that come out every once in a while?

Edit: typo

 

[TheDetailer]

How are people with autism, schizophrenia, ADHD, OCD, bipolar, and other notable mental disorders treated in this universe compared to our own? Worse, better, mediocre, or around the same?

 

[KDS]

We never got confirmation on the marriage of Louis Ferdinand of Prussia so i thought i could throw some names. I'm prioritizing the Royal Protestant and Orthodox Houses (excluding Russia ofc as they hate each other) since they were more commonly wedded between each other than with catholics. There could be a lot more if we consider the mediatized houses. I'm also keeping the marriage date of 1938.

1. Irene of Hesse-Phillippstahl-Barchfeld (1907-). Her brother married a Prussian Princess. OTL she married a minor noble in 1934 so that would have to be butterflied away.
2. Sybilla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1908). Her father was Carl Eduard, who was close with the Prussian Royal Family (The Kaiser supervised his education closely) and married the niece of Empress Augusta. Both OTL and ITTL married to Gustaf Adolf of Sweden so she is out.
3. Marie Luise of Schleswig-Holstein (1908). Daughter of Albert of Schleswig-Holstein and Ortrud of Isenburg. Her sister married OTL Ernst August of Hannover (nephew of Kaiser Wilhelm). OTL she married in 1934 to a Baron.
4. Feodora of Denmark (1910-). Niece to the wives of Carl Eduard of S-C-G and Prince August Wilhelm of Prussia, also sister-in-law to ITTL King of Denmark (OTL Prince Knud). OTL married in 1937 Prince Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe.
5. Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1911-). OTL married in 1938 Friedrich Gunther of Schwarzburg but divorced in months so it could be butterflied either way.
6. Cecilia of Greece and Denmar (1911-). sister of OTL Prince Philip. Married OTL in 1931 to Georg Donatus of Hesse (future Grand Duke)
7. Caroline Mathilde of Denmark (1912-). Sister of Feodora but married to Knud since 1933, will be Queen of Denmark.
8. Caroline Mathilde of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1912-). sister of Sybilla so same relations as her. OTL married 3 times and by 1938 she is newly divorced with 3 children, which may or may not make the Kaiser oppose the union to the second in line to the throne.
9. Katherine of Greece and Denmark (1913-). Niece of Wilhelm II. OTL she married a british officer after WWII in 1947. ITTL married to the Duke of Kent. Not sure what happened to his OTL wife Marina. considering that her age gap to him is 11 years compared to Marinas 3-4. Personally, I would have Marina marry DoK as OTL and Katherine get with LF. A lot of Greek Princesses have married into German Royalty so there could be a lot of oportunity for them to meet and the age gaps work a bit better (3-4 and 5-6). Added benefit of relations to both Danish and Greek courts in one stroke.
10. Viktoria Cecilie of Hesse-Phillippstahl-Barchfeld (1914-). sister of Irene. OTL never married so could work without having to change too much.
11. Alexandrine Louse of Denmark (1914-). Sister to Feodora and Caroline Mathilde. OTL considered as possible wife of Edward VIII but married in 1937 Count Luitpold of Castell Castell.
12. Sophia of Greece (1914-) another sister of OTL Prince Philip. Married in 1930 to Christoph of Hesse (i belive ITTL Prince of Finland so not sure if that happens anyway).
13. Felicitas Reuss of Köstritz (1914-) OTL married to a Prince of Isenburg in 1935.
14. Siegelinde of Lippe (1915-). Daughter of Leopold IV of Lippe. OTL that family was in horrible terms with Wilhelm II because he favored the succession of the Schaumburg-Lippe to the Principality of Lippe in early 1900's and a lot of snubs and pettiness happened on both sides afterwards. Could be an option if they reconcile with the Kaiser (happened before with the Hannovers and the Schleswig-Holsteins). OTL she married morganatically in 1942 so she could be the wife of either LF or any of his brothers. Maybe Friedrich Georg as i'm not sure he would marry Brigid Guiness ITTL.
15. Marie Luise Reuss of Köstritz (1915-) Daughter of a Prussian Princess (from the Line of Frederick Karl of Prussia). Her father was considered as a possible heir to the Dutch Throne before the birth of Wilhelmina (when it was a given that Wilhelm Ernst of SWE would abdicate) so there may be interesting claims in there if/when that line dies out (Only one SWE, Leonie, stands before them in theory). OTL married morganatically in 1941. Could be wife to any of the Prussian Princes.
16. Elisabeth Caroline of Lippe (1916-) Cousin to OTL Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld and Niece to Adolf Friedrich VI of Mecklenburg-Streltz. Her mother has a "colorful" past: Pregnant by a servant at 19, married a french count that cheated on her with a Spanish Infanta which led her brother to challenge him to a duel where he was killed. So not really what i think Wilhelm II would be very keen to have. OTL Married in 1939 to the Solms-Braunfels family
17. Frederica of Hannover (1917-). First cousin to LF. OTL married to Paul of Greece in 1938 (not sure if that happens ITTL as well). Wouldn't be the first time royal first cousins marry.
18. Woizlawa Feodroa of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1918) daughter of ITTL Adolf Friedrich of the United Baltic Duchy (and possible heir?). My headcanon would be for her to marry Wilhelm Viktor of Prussia so that the Hohenzollerns get to the Throne of Livonia through her.
19. Thyra of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1919-). Another first cousin but this time on the maternal side. OTL never married.

There are more from Princesses from the Reuss, Lippe, Oldenburgs, Waldecks and Saxe-Meiningens but they would be minors by 1938.

Some catholics are: Archduchess Adelheid of Austria (1914-), Archduchess Mathilde of Austria-Tuscany (1906-) Archduchess Magdalena of Austria "Joseph August Line" (1909-), ITTLs Princesses of Lithuania Adelgunde (1917-) or Eleonore (1918), Josephine of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1911-), Marie Therese of Liechtenstein (1908), Maria Henriette of Liechtenstein (1914-), etc. but none of them really make much sense like the ones above other than the Adelheid as she is closely related to the then Emperor.

Thoughts?

P.S: Yes, i play CK2.

 

[Lalli]

Would Habsburg-Hohenzollern match ever be possible since both families are staunchly Catholics/Protestants? And not sure if Habsburg would convert that could marry LF.

 

[MaskedPickle]

Hubert Horatio Humphrey, Jr. (born May, 27 1911 in Wallace, SD - died January, 13 1978 in Waverly, MN) was an American pharmacist best known for being the first to synthesize, ingest and learn of the psychedelic effects of lysergic acid diethelymide (LSD), better known as lysergacid and the Euphoria psychedelic drug. He also participated to the naming and synthesizing of psilocybin and psilocin. His efforts, along with his promotion for the medicinal use of the drug, allowed him to win the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1960 and the Scheele Award in 1966.

Born to Hubert Horatio Humphrey, Sr., a licensed pharmacist, and Ragnild Kristine Sannes, a Norwegian immigrant, Humphrey spent his youth in Doland, South Dakota, where his father had a drugstore. In the late 1920s, a severe economic downturn hit Doland, forcing the Humphreys to leave to the large town of Huron, SD ; as the Great Depression worsened, Humphrey took on a full pharmacy course in the Capitol College of Pharmacy in Denver, Colorado : first wishing to support the familial store, Humphrey saw his father declare bankruptcy while he was away, forcing him to take a job as a lab assistant at Johnson & Johnson, in Chicago, Illinois. A skilled pharmacist and a fruitful manager, Humphrey climbed the ladder in spite of his relatively small qualification, even if, by his account, “he felt quite miserable there”.

While working on squill and fungus ergot to purify and synthesize active constituents, Humphrey was able to first synthesize LSD on November, 16 1936. Accidentally dripping a very small amount of the substance into his beer at lunch two days later, Humphrey began to experience slow and gradual changes in his perception, before returning home on the L Train, with his reaction alternating between anxiety and enjoyment. The day of November, 18 1936 would remain known as “Ride Day” for all Euphoria users and Humphrey had discovered what he immediately deemed as an efficient psychiatric tool.

Mass produced during the World War for treatment of shell shock by Allied veterans, LSD would be commercialized as Euphoria by Johnson & Johnson and become a staple of culture, as evidenced by his influence on swing, dissident and hipster artists in Europe and America aline. Humphrey himself rejected this recreational use but lobbied in favor of a more widespread use for mental health and against depression, himself continuing to ingest microdoses throughout his life. He also lobbied for depenalization of non-addictive recreational drugs such as cannabis.

The Nobel Committee acknowledged the successful contribution of Humphrey to mental treatment along with the positive effects of the drug on veterans, awarding him with the supreme distinction in Medicine. The use of lysergic acid under medical supervision was authorized by Congress in 1966 in the United States, even if unchecked production and consumption is still a punishable offense as of 2023.

Married to Muriel Buck, a bookkeeper of Huron, SD, in 1934, Humphrey had four children and was a lifelong supporter of the Progressive Party. Artists using Euphoria launched a mock draft-in campaign of Hubert Humphrey for President in 1952, 1960, 1968 and 1972, under the false slogan of “amnesty, abortion and acid” ; Humphrey responded with humour to these shenanigans but was said to have actually considered a legitimate presidential run in 1968.

Still working for Johnson & Johnson in Minneapolis, MN, as head of pharmaceutical research, Humphrey was diagnosed with terminal bladder cancer. He would pass away on January, 13 1978, in is home in Waverly, MN. His funeral was attended by tens of thousands, notably by President George McGovern himself, Progressive politicians, prominent psychiatrists and a large part of America’s cultural class, acknowledging the deep influence of his accidental discovery on culture, even if Humphrey remained vilified by conservative circles.

 

[MaskedPickle]

What are the relations between Germany, UK, US, Russia and China (basically major powers) in the 21st Century? Is the UK actively allied to Germany other than regarding Azania? Are they even allied or just co-belligerents of sorts? Is UK part of the RP/EEC? Is Russia? And concerning the flashpoint between the Hashemite Empire and Iran, who is siding with who?

They are all quite warm nowadays, the United Kingdom is a full partner of Germany, member of the European Community and the Reichspakt. Russia is independent on this matter.
Russia is more pro-Hashemite, China, Germany and UK more pro-Iran, the US are neutral but all are willing for hostilities to stop.

Thinking more of who they’d be named after. Maybe the OR tanks after Tsarina Olga?

That's an idea !

With all the advances in technology (space travel, cloning, etc.) What is the level of weapons technology compared to OTL?. Are drones being used widely, laser artillery, maybe some of the "futuristic" armors that come out every once in a while?

Edit: typo

Battle robots are currently being deployed and exoskeletons are a common sight in modern armies.

How are people with autism, schizophrenia, ADHD, OCD, bipolar, and other notable mental disorders treated in this universe compared to our own? Worse, better, mediocre, or around the same?

Better, psychedelic drug treatments are better used and treatment of PTSD among veterans are widely used.

We never got confirmation on the marriage of Louis Ferdinand of Prussia so i thought i could throw some names. I'm prioritizing the Royal Protestant and Orthodox Houses (excluding Russia ofc as they hate each other) since they were more commonly wedded between each other than with catholics. There could be a lot more if we consider the mediatized houses. I'm also keeping the marriage date of 1938.

1. Irene of Hesse-Phillippstahl-Barchfeld (1907-). Her brother married a Prussian Princess. OTL she married a minor noble in 1934 so that would have to be butterflied away.
2. Sybilla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1908). Her father was Carl Eduard, who was close with the Prussian Royal Family (The Kaiser supervised his education closely) and married the niece of Empress Augusta. Both OTL and ITTL married to Gustaf Adolf of Sweden so she is out.
3. Marie Luise of Schleswig-Holstein (1908). Daughter of Albert of Schleswig-Holstein and Ortrud of Isenburg. Her sister married OTL Ernst August of Hannover (nephew of Kaiser Wilhelm). OTL she married in 1934 to a Baron.
4. Feodora of Denmark (1910-). Niece to the wives of Carl Eduard of S-C-G and Prince August Wilhelm of Prussia, also sister-in-law to ITTL King of Denmark (OTL Prince Knud). OTL married in 1937 Prince Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe.
5. Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1911-). OTL married in 1938 Friedrich Gunther of Schwarzburg but divorced in months so it could be butterflied either way.
6. Cecilia of Greece and Denmar (1911-). sister of OTL Prince Philip. Married OTL in 1931 to Georg Donatus of Hesse (future Grand Duke)
7. Caroline Mathilde of Denmark (1912-). Sister of Feodora but married to Knud since 1933, will be Queen of Denmark.
8. Caroline Mathilde of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1912-). sister of Sybilla so same relations as her. OTL married 3 times and by 1938 she is newly divorced with 3 children, which may or may not make the Kaiser oppose the union to the second in line to the throne.
9. Katherine of Greece and Denmark (1913-). Niece of Wilhelm II. OTL she married a british officer after WWII in 1947. ITTL married to the Duke of Kent. Not sure what happened to his OTL wife Marina. considering that her age gap to him is 11 years compared to Marinas 3-4. Personally, I would have Marina marry DoK as OTL and Katherine get with LF. A lot of Greek Princesses have married into German Royalty so there could be a lot of oportunity for them to meet and the age gaps work a bit better (3-4 and 5-6). Added benefit of relations to both Danish and Greek courts in one stroke.
10. Viktoria Cecilie of Hesse-Phillippstahl-Barchfeld (1914-). sister of Irene. OTL never married so could work without having to change too much.
11. Alexandrine Louse of Denmark (1914-). Sister to Feodora and Caroline Mathilde. OTL considered as possible wife of Edward VIII but married in 1937 Count Luitpold of Castell Castell.
12. Sophia of Greece (1914-) another sister of OTL Prince Philip. Married in 1930 to Christoph of Hesse (i belive ITTL Prince of Finland so not sure if that happens anyway).
13. Felicitas Reuss of Köstritz (1914-) OTL married to a Prince of Isenburg in 1935.
14. Siegelinde of Lippe (1915-). Daughter of Leopold IV of Lippe. OTL that family was in horrible terms with Wilhelm II because he favored the succession of the Schaumburg-Lippe to the Principality of Lippe in early 1900's and a lot of snubs and pettiness happened on both sides afterwards. Could be an option if they reconcile with the Kaiser (happened before with the Hannovers and the Schleswig-Holsteins). OTL she married morganatically in 1942 so she could be the wife of either LF or any of his brothers. Maybe Friedrich Georg as i'm not sure he would marry Brigid Guiness ITTL.
15. Marie Luise Reuss of Köstritz (1915-) Daughter of a Prussian Princess (from the Line of Frederick Karl of Prussia). Her father was considered as a possible heir to the Dutch Throne before the birth of Wilhelmina (when it was a given that Wilhelm Ernst of SWE would abdicate) so there may be interesting claims in there if/when that line dies out (Only one SWE, Leonie, stands before them in theory). OTL married morganatically in 1941. Could be wife to any of the Prussian Princes.
16. Elisabeth Caroline of Lippe (1916-) Cousin to OTL Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld and Niece to Adolf Friedrich VI of Mecklenburg-Streltz. Her mother has a "colorful" past: Pregnant by a servant at 19, married a french count that cheated on her with a Spanish Infanta which led her brother to challenge him to a duel where he was killed. So not really what i think Wilhelm II would be very keen to have. OTL Married in 1939 to the Solms-Braunfels family
17. Frederica of Hannover (1917-). First cousin to LF. OTL married to Paul of Greece in 1938 (not sure if that happens ITTL as well). Wouldn't be the first time royal first cousins marry.
18. Thyra of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1917-). Another first cousin but this time on the maternal side. OTL never married.
19. Woizlawa Feodroa of Mecklenburg-Schwerin (1918) daughter of ITTL Adolf Friedrich of the United Baltic Duchy (and possible heir?). My headcanon would be for her to marry Wilhelm Viktor of Prussia so that the Hohenzollerns get to the Throne of Livonia through her.

There are more from Princesses from the Reuss, Lippe, Oldenburgs, Waldecks and Saxe-Meiningens but they would be minors by 1938.

Some catholics are: Archduchess Adelheid of Austria (1914-), Archduchess Mathilde of Austria-Tuscany (1906-) Archduchess Magdalena of Austria "Joseph August Line" (1909-), ITTLs Princesses of Lithuania Adelgunde (1917-) or Eleonore (1918), Josephine of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1911-), Marie Therese of Liechtenstein (1908), Maria Henriette of Liechtenstein (1914-), etc. but none of them really make much sense like the ones above other than the Adelheid as she is closely related to the then Emperor.

Thoughts?

P.S: Yes, i play CK2.

That is quite amazing, and I will use this template for my own matchmaking. That's incredible.

 

[Dragonboy]

@MaskedPickle ! Great work! Love these wiki boxes and biographies

 

[Whiteshore]

Battle robots are currently being deployed and exoskeletons are a common sight in modern armies.

What militaries are most effective when it comes to the development of combat robots and exoskeletons?

That is quite amazing, and I will use this template for my own matchmaking. That's incredible.

Speaking of which, with the Tsarina a lesbian, what people are noted to be her partner(s) here and why?

Russia is more pro-Hashemite, China, Germany and UK more pro-Iran, the US are neutral but all are willing for hostilities to stop.

Any particular reason the Russians support the Hashemites while the Chinese, British, and Germans support the Iranians?

 

[KDS]

Would Habsburg-Hohenzollern match ever be possible since both families are staunchly Catholics/Protestants? And not sure if Habsburg would convert that could marry LF.

Well we have OTL cases of Hohenzollern Marrying catholic families as rare and early as they were (i know of only 3 successful ones)

• Elisabeth Ludovika of Bavaria married Friedrich Wilhelm IV of Prussia and converted to Lutheranism
• Marie of Prussia married Maximilian II of Bavaria and converted to catholicism
• Prince Friedrich Wilhelm of Prussia married Agathe of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst (Ratibor branch) but had to promise to raise their children as protestant.
• Franz Joseph wanted OTL to marry a Prussian Princess but nothing came of it and later wanted Archduchess Elizabeth of Austria, daughter of Rudolf to marry The German Crown Prince. Nothing came out of that.
• And not Hohenzollern but close relation, we have OTL Philipp of Hesse with Mafalda of Savoy (not sure if it happens OTL since he should be at Finland).

So in general, it is possible but would depend on the current Austrian Kaiser/Grand Archduke and the German Kaiser. I believe that Otto was less pro Germany OTL but that may be legacy of WWI and WWII. I could see Louis Ferdinand being more open to the issue. ITTL the current Kaiser is married to Eleonore of Habsburg.

I am much more sceptical of the Orléans family regarding the marriages of Helene, Claude and Diane of Orléans to the King of UK, German Emperor and King of Finland. The heads of the house were known to be majorly stubborn in this issue and managed interfere in any chance of it happening

• OTLs catholic Line of the House of Württemberg comes from a marriage with an Orléans Princess,
• They brought down a marriage to Albert Victor, Prince of Wales which even Queen Victoria agreed at one point.
• The Marriage of Valdemar of Denmark to Marie of Orléans was possible for example because both came from further down the line from the then Heads of House and even then the daughters were to be raised as catholics while the sons as lutheran.
• OTL Françoise d'Orléans with Christopher of Greece and Denmark. Not sure if any shenanigans happened there but even if it was a similar arrangement like the one with Valdemar there was only one son from that marriage. ITTL she marries into Montenegro which has an other issues. See below.
• ITTL Jean IV was engaged with Tatiana of Oldenburg but they fell down again because of religion And that was in the 2000's. ITTL they married.

Especially considering that ITTL Henri VI is considered very stubborn and difficult. I see more likely that he seeks the matches with Saxony, Württemberg, Bavaria, Austria or the Catholic Sigmaringen Hohenzollerns if he wants a connection with Germany than with Prussia, England and Finland (OTL Prince FW of Prussia mentioned above was considered for the finnish throne but dropped because of his catholic wife)

Also noticed that both Helene of Orleans and Anne Marie of Denmark (OTL Queen of Greece but ITTL 10-20 years younger ) appear as Queens of England but in the English Kings wikibox just Helene appears. Considering the above maybe Anne Marie is a more possible choice.

On Montenegro: Françoise is 6 years older than Michael of Montenegro and the Montenegrins are not really a usual dynasty for the Orléans. OTL she married in 1929 ~27 at the time while Michael would be ~21 which is possible but he married all the way down on 1941. Now the question is how would they get to consider the Orléans family between 1929 and 1941. ITTL Danilo and Jutta should be ruling Montenegro from 1921-1939 so relations to Germany just after the end of the Great European War are important. Most of the princesses that i posted on the Louis Ferdinand issue could apply here as well (similar age) but in this case, the 2 likely matches if Jutta/Germany has any sway on the issue could be either her niece Elisabeth Caroline of Lippe or Thyra of Meckelnburg-Schwerin. EC's background could be less of an issue there considering Danilo married Jutta in the first place considering all that, she is 7-8 years younger but by 1939 she's 22-23 so perfectly in line and only 1-2 years younger than his OTL wife. Thyra (21-24) has also an added benefit of being the niece of the German Empress by 1941.

By the time he married OTL he would be on the throne and it could go into a diferent direction but considering the political situation of the time the marriage could be of national significance. Other more strategic possibilities depending on the relations between countries could be:

• Donika of Albania: direct neighbor but she could be taken by the Italians for Umberto to cement their hold on Albania or by the Bulgarians. Albania was dismembered by Serbia, Montenegro, Italy and Greece so all of those while strategic could have problems. It could make sense that they choose the biggest dogs in the group, the one who took the least (Italy) or the one that kicked their collective asses (Bulgaria) thinking it would bring safety but it backfires later. Bulgaria makes a lot of sense when you consider that relations Between them and Serbia/Romania/Greece are awful so to play ball with Italy/Montenegro and Albania would be a logical step.
• Either daughter of Victor Emmanuel III of Italy: Giovanna of Savoy (OTL married to bulgaria since 1930 so probably out unless that marriage is butterflied away) and Maria Francesca of Savoy (OTL married to a Bourbon-Parma in 1939) but they are first cousins and as far as i know that was not allowed in the Orthodox faith. From the Genoa Line there is Adelaide (4 years older, OTL married in 1935). Could explain how the italians pushed to associate Montenegro to them but that would likely only be considered on the next generation.
• Any of the Greek Princesses. Maybe Marina or Katherine (OTL and ITTTL Duchess of Kent), leaning on Marina if nothing changes from previous postings (only 2 years older) or Eugenie (her mother is a Bonaparte and i'm not sure how were they regarded on Montenegro).

 

[KDS]

They are all quite warm nowadays, the United Kingdom is a full partner of Germany, member of the European Community and the Reichspakt.

Any Brexit type movements?

Russia is independent on this matter.
Russia is more pro-Hashemite, China, Germany and UK more pro-Iran, the US are neutral but all are willing for hostilities to stop.

Any particular reason the Russians support the Hashemites while the Chinese, British, and Germans support the Iranians?

I think i read that the Germans intervened on Iran at some point but it is Geopolitically strange since Russia always wanted full control of Iran and Afghanistan. What happened in the end with the Berlin Bagdhad Railway? I would assume if it is still important to German Econonmy that might tailor their response? But if the Hashemites nationalize it sending a big FU to Britain and Germany it is possible to rearrange the board like this.

That is quite amazing, and I will use this template for my own matchmaking. That's incredible.

Hey no problem. I actually enjoy doing the dynastic thing a lot so if you have any other doubts just give me names and age range and i can look possible brides for them

 

[KDS]

Battle robots are currently being deployed and exoskeletons are a common sight in modern armie

So Star Wars droid army and Iron Man?

What militaries are most effective when it comes to the development of combat robots and exoskeletons?

I would assume Germany has to lead in at least one of those.

 

[Whiteshore]

So Star Wars droid army and Iron Man?

I think the former would be more comparable to our world's combat drones but better.