For the Want of a Ram: The World of a Surviving Caesar

Ok, so I finally finished chapter 8 where a lot happens. I'm probably only going to spend 1-2 more chapters on the Dacian War before I move onto to Parthia. I'll try to get the next chapter out faster than I did this one. I've just been busy with school and work lately.
 
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Loving this story a lot! Am excited to see how Caesar's ventures fare ITTL
At least good old Octavian gets a proper dip into the art of war here... Do hope that his military record, even if not a career of sterling success, is nowhere near as bad as OTL
 
Rip sweet king, if only this TL hadnt Caesar in the name you might have won
Loved the chapter, wonder how many "What if he hadnt been assassinated" would exist ITTL
 
@CrassusFantastic unless Cesar has already adopted the OTL future Augustus his name is Gaius Octavius NOT Octavianus (as that is the declination who the former nomen take after an adoption)
I don’t think I ever used Octavianus. I’ve just been using Octavian, the anglicization, for convenience since that’s what people tend to know him as. I can change it to Octavius though to make the distinction more clear
 
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I don’t think I ever used Octavianus. I’ve just been using Octavian, the anglicization, for convenience since that’s what people tend to know him as. I can change it to Octavius though to make the distinction more clear
True, you used Octavian but still that name is wrong and would be better change it with Octavius… unless you plan to have him been adopted by Caesar in the near future as in that case would make sense using already the other name
 
True, you used Octavian but still that name is wrong and would be better change it with Octavius… unless you plan to have him been adopted by Caesar in the near future as in that case would make sense using already the other name
Ok, that’s totally fine then. I’ll go ahead and just change it to Octavius later in all the chapters

Edit: fixed
 
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Caesar liked having lots of artillery and used it against fortifications. Surprised he didn't use it in this instance.
I mentioned that he launched a bunch of horses at the enemy lines. I’ll probably go ahead and add that in though, along with making some edits to the whole battle part. I kinda wrote that on the fly tbh
 
@CrassusFantastic Excellent update! Small nitpick to start: you mentioned the month of "August" and "Christmas" in the last update.

I had also been thinking of a small detail for the TL just now -- Cleopatra and retinue had come to Rome in late 46 to work some things out with their status as "friends of Rome" (ie client kings); also in late 46 BC, Julius Caesar was departing Rome for Spain to deal with the last of the Pompeians (in what would be the Battle of Munda); Caesar returned to Rome late in the summer of 45 BC; he also petitioned for and received a fifth triumph, which would have been held in the fall (needing at least a month of planning); and nobody sails in the winter, Cleopatra naturally spent the next winter (45-44) in Rome as well. That's how, OTL, she found herself to be in the city when Julius Caesar was killed (and thus reportedly spent weeks thereafter trying to get her son recognized as Caesar's heir, which, frankly, struck me as odd in itself, but that's something else entirely).

Anyway, I bring up this chain of events, because the plan was likely for Cleopatra to depart with Caesar, and then sail home to Egypt as he sailed to Illyrium. So, while a small detail, it's likely she arrives back in Alexandria a little earlier than OTL.
 
@CrassusFantastic Excellent update! Small nitpick to start: you mentioned the month of "August" and "Christmas" in the last update.

I had also been thinking of a small detail for the TL just now -- Cleopatra and retinue had come to Rome in late 46 to work some things out with their status as "friends of Rome" (ie client kings); also in late 46 BC, Julius Caesar was departing Rome for Spain to deal with the last of the Pompeians (in what would be the Battle of Munda); Caesar returned to Rome late in the summer of 45 BC; he also petitioned for and received a fifth triumph, which would have been held in the fall (needing at least a month of planning); and nobody sails in the winter, Cleopatra naturally spent the next winter (45-44) in Rome as well. That's how, OTL, she found herself to be in the city when Julius Caesar was killed (and thus reportedly spent weeks thereafter trying to get her son recognized as Caesar's heir, which, frankly, struck me as odd in itself, but that's something else entirely).

Anyway, I bring up this chain of events, because the plan was likely for Cleopatra to depart with Caesar, and then sail home to Egypt as he sailed to Illyrium. So, while a small detail, it's likely she arrives back in Alexandria a little earlier than OTL.
Fixed, thanks for pointing that out. Also, interesting detail. I actually hadn't thought much about Cleopatra, so I'll make sure to include it. I'll probably have them travel to Antioch together in the summer of 43 BC. Also, Caesarion's fate here has the potential to be interesting. There's no way he's going to rule Rome obviously, and I wouldn't be shocked if the story about Cleopatra's petitions was just propaganda or embellishment. He'll probably become pharaoh of Egypt after Cleo's death, though that's far in the future, and I don't even have that planned yet. Also, quick question; since you mentioned the season, do you think it'd be plausible to have Caesar travel around a bit during the winter? I'm pretty sure he did this during his campaign in Gaul, and I was just going to have him go to Thrace and Asia Minor to sort out some stuff before returning to Dacia in the spring. He won't be going back to Italy or anything crazy.
 
Also, quick question; since you mentioned the season, do you think it'd be plausible to have Caesar travel around a bit during the winter? I'm pretty sure he did this during his campaign in Gaul, and I was just going to have him go to Thrace and Asia Minor to sort out some stuff before returning to Dacia in the spring.
If he's going by boat, I'd say it's less than likely; but if he can travel easily enough by land, then sure.
 
So, they’d dump their excess perishables in a nearby spring

This part didn't make sense. If they are cutting rations because they are low on food, they shouldn't need to dump anything. If they are cutting rations because they need to move quicker, the standard thing to do would be to have a huge feast where they chow down on all the perishables.
 
This part didn't make sense. If they are cutting rations because they are low on food, they shouldn't need to dump anything. If they are cutting rations because they need to move quicker, the standard thing to do would be to have a huge feast where they chow down on all the perishables.
Ok, I’ll go ahead and change that part then. Again, Roman military strategy isn’t exactly my forte. I tend to be more well versed in the cultural and political side of things. If any of you have other criticisms on military stuff, I’m fine changing things
 
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What is happening in Rome during all of this? Is Caesar having reports read in the Senate?
I’m going to be doing an interlude on the goings on of the Roman world soon, probably as a bookend to the Dacian War. Currently Mark Antony is technically running it, though not really, while the Senate is building a bunch of Caesar’s projects and new canals, along with some land reform, down in Campania and around Latium proper. There’s going to be a whole update on the political situation in Rome while I’ll also touch on Lepidus in Spain and things in Syria while I’m at it.
 
Ok, I’ll go ahead and change that part then. Again, Roman military strategy isn’t exactly my forte. I tend to be more well versed in the cultural and political side of things. If any of you have other criticisms on military stuff, I’m fine changing things
The Romans were big on camps, roads, scouting and logistics. Caeser was famous for his units marching further, upping the artillery in his legions, and for rapid adaptation during battles. He beat his former top commanders like Titus Labienus, Aulus Hirtius, Decimus Junius Brutus Albinus, and Publius Attius Varus like a drum in the civil war.

In the movie Spartacus (1960) Crassus pronounces the punishment of exile for his protege Gaius Claudius Glaber's failure to entrench a camp when campaigning against Spartacus.
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Spartacus breaking Glabers staff of command.


Video of the full movie, Advance this to 1:51:30 seconds to see the Senate pronounce punishment of Glaber for failure to entrench. Warning this does have some commercials.
 
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