For the Sake of a Shower: The Assassination of Margaret Thatcher

Chapter IV: Divisions of Ideology

In retrospect, it is difficult to understand why the right-wing of the Conservative Party was not more dominant following the death of Mrs. Thatcher in October 1984. Certainly, with a Cabinet dominated by figures such as Tebbit, Proctor, Gow and Clark, it is not hard to imagine a response to the IRA that would have resulted in an Orwellian situation developing within the United Kingdom. Indeed, many have pondered why, after the
“Prevention of Terrorism Act” was passed as the first piece of legislation of the new Government, further measures were not forthcoming. While the arrests of people dubbed “dissidents” by the more right-wing press were not unheard of (Ian Hislop being an obvious example) Britain never reached the state of totalitarian democracy that many liberal commentators had feared, especially given the fact that such arrests almost always resulted in all charges being dropped soon after the arrest.

The primary reason behind the limited Government response to only the second Prime Ministerial assassination in history can be seen in the personality of the new Prime Minister, Michael Heseltine. Heseltine was seen by many as a uniting force between the Thatcherite tendency which had come to power following the 1975 leadership election and the old “One Nation Wing” which had dominated the Party since the time of Baldwin. Heseltine, despite presiding over the major schism in the Conservative Party which was to start over the issue of Europe in the latter part of the eighties, could count on support from key players in both of these camps. In addition, the nature of “Collective Cabinet Responsibility” ensured that figures such as Tebbit, who under normal situations may have felt the need for a more radical response to terrorism, did not have the support base necessary to resign and challenge for the leadership over the issue of the IRA. While many liberals protested the detaining of suspected IRA members, in reality, given the calls from many senior Conservative MPs for the reintroduction of capital punishment (which would have been technically illegal under EU law), British democracy could have been left in a far worse state than it was by the end of the Conservative government.

-From “The Conservatives Affronted: A Retrospective of the Brighton Bombing Ten Years On”: Prof. Andrew Gamble: University of Cambridge Press, 1994

COMPREHENSIVE DEFEAT FOR DEATH PENALTY BILL

The controversial private members bill proposed by Conservative backbencher John Biggs-Davison was defeated yesterday by over 200 votes. Despite backing from many senior Tory MPs, as well as many Unionists, the collective opposition from all major party leaders ensured that the bill, which is seen by some as a necessary move against terrorist suspects, scuppered any hope of the bill being carried to the House of Lords. In a statement following the vote, the Prime Minister announced “terrorism must be dealt with strongly, yet we cannot sacrifice our most valued human rights in the process”, Labour leader Neil Kinnock expressed approval of the Prime Minister’s stance, however, he also announced that “given the fact that senior Cabinet members had to be brow beaten into submission by the Prime Minister, the public cannot be feeling confident that any future Tory leader will adhere to basic human rights”. The bill, which would have reintroduced capital punishment for all those found guilty of mass murder, could have come into legal force before the trial of the three men accused of the Westminster Abbey Shootings last November.”

-From The Daily Telegraph: Wednesday 16th April 1985

I'd rather live in a world with people in it, no matter how stained it is with sin.”

-Enoch Powell on the Capital Punishment (Reform) Bill [1]

“Given the remarkable transformation of the Conservative Party over the last six months, and their gratifying volte-face from the social upheaval of unrestricted monetarist economic policy, I am proud to announce that I shall now be joining the Conservative Party as of today. I no longer feel that any third party can break the deadlock our voting system provides and that the SDP is now too united with the Liberal-Labour electoral pact to provide a clear voice for the moderate voice of the electorate, something I feel the Conservative Party now represents.”

-Excerpt from David Owens’s statement announcing his defection to the Conservative Party

“The arrival of David Owen in the Government benches divided the Cabinet. The Prime Minister, Alan Clark and myself all held a high opinion of him. Margaret had always said that it was a shame to let a political mind such as his go to waste, something that I had always agreed with. However, appointing him to the Cabinet, which was always Michael’s intention would not have been popular with many grandees, who viewed Owen as a political jellyfish for his migration from party to party. I thought that his arrival in the Cabinet would have been excellent for Conservative Unity, but clearly Tebbit thought otherwise. It was a long and painful campaign by many of us to bring David in. Originally we had planned for Howe to step down in favour of Owen, but given the fact that Geoffrey was such a long standing member of the cabinet, who after Whitelaw arguably held the most gravitas, we had to find another position to give to David in the meantime. At my own suggestion, Proctor (who Michael had received several unsavoury reports about) was dropped as Chief Secretary in the September reshuffle.

Clearly this was a major factor in the gradual splitting of party unity which would prove so damaging to the Government over the next few years…”

-From: “A Moderate Voice: Memoirs of Westminster” Thomas King: HarperCollins, 1993

“Me Tarzan, You Jane”

-Front cover of 2nd-18th June 1985 edition of Private Eye showing Heseltine and Owen together

“Vince Cable has refused to clarify the Governments position on the proposed rise in interest rates by the ECB. The Chancellor, speaking from his holiday in Bordeaux earlier today announced that the Government did not comment on speculation over monetary policy. His statement has been criticised by the Shadow Chancellor Adair Turner, who announced that “every day without a clear statement against or in favour of the move will only serve to weaken confidence in the euro against other currencies”

-From The Guardian: Friday 14th August 2009

[1] Hope you don't mind the slight NGE nod. I just wanted to have the most unlikely person possible quote from it, before it was made you understand.
 
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“Vince Cable has refused to clarify the Governments position on the proposed rise in interest rates by the ECB. The Chancellor, speaking from his holiday in Bordeaux earlier today announced that the Government did not comment on speculation over monetary policy. His statement has been criticised by the Shadow Chancellor Adair Turner, who announced that “every day without a clear statement against or in favour of the move will only serve to weaken confidence in the euro against other currencies”

-From The Guardian: Friday 14th August 2009

[1] Hope you don't mind the slight NGE nod. I just wanted to have the most unlikely person possible quote from it, before it was made you understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBMKfWEjdqU

Brilliant as always.

So I'm guessing the futures bright?
 
In retrospect, it is difficult to understand why the right-wing of the Conservative Party was not more dominant following the death of Mrs. Thatcher in October 1983.
Surely you mean '84?

His statement has been criticised by the Shadow Chancellor Adair Turner, who announced that “every day without a clear statement against or in favour of the move will only serve to weaken confidence in the euro against other currencies”
And even more surely you mean the pound?
 
why are the conservatives offended at the implication of Thatcher dying? I'm a liberal and I'm not offended by the assassination of kennedy, nor would I be offended at a TL where clinton or FDR were assassinated. Maybe if this TL has Thatcher dying and then have England turn into the land of milk and honey or something with little gnomes prancing about sprinkling flowers on the worlds children or whatever, then you could have a reasonable reason to be offended.

Presumably cause so many people despise her, so they will defend her to the hilt regardless of the purposes of this site!

I am enjoying this TL greatly, and look forward to how Britain steers itself more deeply into Europe... Perhaps the ECB will end up in London with the UK in it from the start?
 
(all interesting. However):
Chapter IV: Divisions of Ideology

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I'd rather live in a world with people in it, no matter how stained it is with sin.”

-Enoch Powell on the Capital Punishment (Reform) Bill [1]

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[1] Hope you don't mind the slight NGE nod. I just wanted to have the most unlikely person possible quote from it, before it was made you understand.
NGE? :confused:
 
Stuff like this is why I'll always be a lurker, rather than a writer I fear. This is really interesting, and very well done
 
Um... I'm one of the lefties here.

And I think that would be an interesting read (though I wouldn't "like" the idea, it would be interesting to see where it went). Write it if you want to. Why not? I don't understand why the idea of Thatcher dying in the Brighton Bombing - which could very easily have happened - is so personally offensive to you.

why are the conservatives offended at the implication of Thatcher dying? I'm a liberal and I'm not offended by the assassination of kennedy, nor would I be offended at a TL where clinton or FDR were assassinated. Maybe if this TL has Thatcher dying and then have England turn into the land of milk and honey or something with little gnomes prancing about sprinkling flowers on the worlds children or whatever, then you could have a reasonable reason to be offended.

I was being sarcastic... I'm a big fan of Lord Roem's timelines, left wing as they are. It just exasperates me sometimes that many members of this board will be DELIGHTED to read this timeline, after all Thatcher did for this country. But let's not get mired into a political rant, and just enjoy the good Lord's interesting piece of work.
 
This may well be my final entry, it's A-Level results in a few hours and I know for a fact I've failed. If my some miracle I survive a terminal explosion coursed by failure, I should update on Friday.

I love you all! [in a platonic sense]

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“As the first anniversary of the Brighton Bombing approached, the Conservative Government, on the surface at least, appeared to be in a state of robust health. The economy was experiencing on of the largest growth rates in years, the downgrading of elements of the Thatcherite privatisations had improved trade union relations and; with the Labour Party still struggling in its battles against the Militant Tendency and the Alliance in a state of flux since the floor-crossing of its most high-profile spokesperson, with little real opposition in the House, Prime Minister Heseltine seemed to be well on course for a landslide victory in the next general election.

However, within the Cabinet, cracks were beginning to emerge in this seemingly excellent state of affairs. The new European Commission, led by the former Belgian Prime Minister and ardent Europhile, Leo Tindermans was now embarking on an ambitions program of economic and social integration that would eventually be established as the Treaty of Bruges. While backed by the Prime Minister and Chancellor King, almost all other senior Conservatives were ideologically opposed to it, though, as no formal legislation had been announced by the Commission at this point, active opposition remained within the hands of the Eurosceptic “Grantham Group”. This would soon change however as talk of integration became more vocal within Brussels.”

-“Decades of Division: Fifty Years of Anglo-European Relations” by Dr. David Miliband: Alan Lane Publishing, 2007

FINAL DETAILS OF RESHUFFLE CONFIRMED

Downing Street has announced the full list of changes to the Government reshuffle which began yesterday. As expected, former SDP leader David Owen replaces Harvey Procter as Chief Secretary to the Treasury, with Michael Howard also joining the Cabinet as a replacement to Peter Walker at Energy following Mr. Walker’s appointment to the European Commission where he will serve alongside the former Shadow Trade and Industry Secretary Mr. John Smith. Aside these two changes, the Cabinet remains largely static with most movements being at the Junior Ministerial level.”

-From The Daily Telegraph: 12th September 1985

“Cabinet meetings at this point were becoming strained to say the least. I was only present on occasion, being as I was only a Minister of State, but every time the notion of foreign affairs came up, someone, usually Tebbit, but often Clark or Gow, would accuse every notion of further moves towards the European Community as being “the end of Britain as a viable nation state”. Of course, I knew such talk was ludicrous, but, with the announcement of John Smith as the new Senior UK Commissioner, many within the Party accused Michael of being a “traitor to the party”. This was highly unfounded; Michael was simply choosing the best figure for the job rather than the most politically active one, but didn’t stop rumours of a leadership challenge by a “stalking horse” candidate being voiced on the right of the party.”

-Former Leader of the Opposition Sir Douglas Hurd in an interview from the recent BBC2 documentary “The European Enigma”

PM TO CABINET: “EUROPE IS MY RESPONSIBILITY”

Speaking at the Conservative Party Conference in Brighton, Prime Minister Heseltine has announced that, while debate over Europe is welcome within Parliament, all final decision over the matter are to be made “by the joint agreement of myself, the Foreign Secretary and the collective vote of Parliament”. In his keynote speech to the Party Conference, held in memorial of Mrs. Thatcher, the Prime Minister spoke out against the continuing rumbles of dissent from senior backbenches as well as senior members of the Cabinet against the current pro-European stance of the Government. However, with the newly installed EU Commission now making formal preparations for introduction of the Single Currency by the end of 1995, debate within the Conservative Party can only be expected to increase over the next few years.”

-From The Times: 19th October 1985

“I was not alone in thinking, “first it’ll be our pound, then our flag and then our armed forces”. The talk of the forthcoming EU superstate was only increasing in volume. Heseltine didn’t seem to care though, he was content with continuing his long, ideologically-based fall into the quagmire of a full scale party revolt”

-Former Foreign Secretary Nigel Farage interviewed in “Sleepwalking towards Chaos: The Conservative Schism of 1988” Prof. Andrew Gamble: University of Cambridge Press, 2006.

“Brussels is a shambles. You know what they say about the average Common Market official: he has the organizing ability of the Italians, the flexibility of the Germans, and the modesty of the French. And that's topped up by the imagination of the Belgians, the generosity of the Dutch and the intelligence of the Irish.”

-James Hacker: Yes Minister

PETER SNOW: The question remains Prime Minister, how can you possibly claim that the Cabinet is united over Europe when high-profile backbenchers such as Mr. Portillo have been seen actively calling for you to step down in favour of one of your Cabinet Ministers?

THE PRIME MINISTER: Peter, I am not totally oblivious to tabloid-esc rumours. The Cabinet will remain united as we near a European Treaty, a Treaty which all my colleagues have pledged to support. I do not deny that a small minority of my fellow MPs are opposed to some elements of the proposed bill, but such is the nature of democracy. Your report totally failed to mention the anti-European wing of the Labour Party for example…

PETER SNOW: No Labour MP has challenged Mr. Kinnock for the leadership though Prime Minister.

THE PRIME MINISTER: Nor has any Conservative one done the same to me Mr. Snow! This so-called “challenge” equates to little more than a single quote from an unattributed MP. When the Chairman of the 1922 calls me to his office then I may take some stock in the rumours but until that happens I shall continue to see them for what they are, total and utter bilge!”

-Except from an interview between Peter Snow and The Rt. Hon. Michael Heseltine MP, Newsnight 14th November 1985.

“Prime Minister Cruddas has joined the list of tributes being paid to former US President George Bush, who has died at the age of 85. President Bush, who served between 1986 and 1989, died at his summer home in Connecticut in the early hours of Wednesday morning. President Feingold, in a personal tribute from the White House stated that the former President “served to bring respect and honour back to Washington”. Details of the memorial service to the fomer leader will be announced in the near future said a spokesperson for the Bush family.”

-From The Guardian: Wednesday 19th August 2009
 
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Ah, that's where I had heard it before! :p

Huzzar! Someone's a big enough geek to get it!

:D

What are your views on this update fellow forumers? Is the Tory breakdown realistic, is it all well written, what about the future echos? Feingold as POTUS, Cruddas as PM etc.?

Comment is what I'm trying to say here!

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Huzzar! Someone's a big enough geek to get it!

:D

What are your views on this update fellow forumers? Is the Tory breakdown realistic, is it all well written, what about the future echos? Feingold as POTUS, Cruddas as PM etc.?

Comment is what I'm trying to say here!

:eek:

A clear "no thank-you" appears to be the response to the above question. Update should come tomorrow (I was having a little celebration last night) so apologies for the slow update.

Seriously, no one has any feedback from the last few posts? Please feel free to tell me something about it. Even if it's bad.

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What are your views on this update fellow forumers? Is the Tory breakdown realistic, is it all well written, what about the future echos? Feingold as POTUS, Cruddas as PM etc.?

Comment is what I'm trying to say here!

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I like it... hmm, John Cruddas as PM. Well, he has to be better than Blair!
 
Echoing the other guys, I think this is very good.

I'm glad you've avoided any political-point-scoring dystopianism, and kept it nice and subtle so far.

As regards the Tory breakdown: if I'm honest, I'm surprised they've kept it together as long as they have in the light of the trauma they've been through. But I like subtle, no-guns-blazing timelines so keep it up.

Obligatory nitpick: I doubt the Times would be referring to the EU Commission in 1985, as the EU didn't exist in OTL until after Maastricht (which also established the basis for the single currency). Even the Single European Act (creating a true Common Market) wasn't around yet. 1985 seems a bit early for talk of the single currency as anything more than an aspiration.
 

maverick

Banned
My only complaint is that the text is italicized, which makes it harder for me to read...but that's just me probably.

I like the style and the references...and President Feingold? how many dystopias do you plan to shout out? ;):p
 
“Christmas is always a time for reflection, this year’s most of all given that it marks my first full term as a Cabinet minister. Final meeting took place this morning, farcical as usual, Michael has no backbone whatsoever, pleasant enough, but as weak and insipid as a polio affected tortoise. The Lady’s legacy is slipping though our fingers! Given in to terrorists, given in to the miners, given in to the wets, we may as well just invite Heath back and ask the Soviets to move in.

The polls are making for increasingly grim reading, Labour are drawing neck and neck with us in the polls and no-one outside myself and Norman seem to give a toss about it. Really, Michael is bad but Kinnock? The man would be a disaster.

I had lunch at the Athenaeum with Portillo. We’re all desperate to get him to the Government but he is too young, and too much capital was expended by moving Owen in, we can’t have another young man in a senior position so soon to the last reshuffle. Norman is thinking of giving Michael another six months, I think that he has had a quiet word with old Cranny Onslow in the event of us having to get rid of him.”

-Excerpt from Alan Clark: Diaries

“The big shock for the Tories I think was the result of the Brecon by-election in March; the Party was pummelled into third place, beyond even the worst predictions for them. Now, Labour was at this time still battling the Trotskyites in Liverpool but frankly, when the governing party is seemingly having pitched battles between its own ministers well, the media thinks that that is far more interesting, not that many of us on the Opposition benches were worried about that!”

-Former Education Secretary Christopher Morris in a recent interview for the Observer magazine

HESELTINE: PUT UP OR SHUT UP!”

After a winter of various rumours regarding a challenge for the leadership of the Conservative Party, the Prime Minister has announced that he will resign as Party leader before the end of the month before putting himself up for election. Speaking at Central Office yesterday evening, Mr. Heseltine stated that “While I remain confident that I have the support of the majority of the Conservative Party, I no longer feel that I can continue to remain Prime Minister whilst persistent attacks from a small minority of the party continue to harm our internal stability”. The Prime Minister has already received endorsements from senior Conservative ministers including the Chancellor, Tom King and the Foreign Secretary Sir Geoffrey Howe. However, sources close to the Home Secretary claim that Mr. Tebbit is holding back from a formal announcement of support owing to differences in opinion on Northern Ireland and welfare reform between the two men. Candidates to challenge the Prime Minister are unknown at the moment, although Westminster insiders claim that high-profile backbencher Michael Portillo is preparing a challenge from the right wing of the party, though, given Mr. Portillo’s relative youth and inexperience within the House, he can only be considered to be a “stalking horse” candidate for the time being.

-From The Times: 13th March 1986

“Well we have to have some sort of challenge to him, are you sure Tebbit won’t do it? Hell, if the right don’t fancy it I don’t suppose we could recall Ted could we?”

-Quote attributed to a (possibly drunk) Conservative MP

“MP SHOT IN BELFAST CINEMA

The Member for Belfast East, Peter Robinson, suffered severe injury yesterday after being shot by an unidentified assailant in a Belfast cinema. Mr. Robinson, a member of the DUP and a prominent critic of the Government’s moderate stance on violence in the Province, suffered large internal wounds from the attack which took place as he and his wife were leaving the movie theatre at around eight o’clock last night, the attacker managed to escape security by fleeing though a fire exit and is still at large despite a nationwide man hunt.

Despite the nature of the attack, doctors at the Royal Victoria Hospital have announced his condition to be “serious, but not life threatening” and expect him to make a full recovery within the near future. The event marks the first high profile attack on a politician since the assassinations at Westminster Abbey in 1984 and will come as a shock to Northern Ireland Secretary Ian Gow who announced that “security in Northern Ireland is now firmly back under the control of the British Government”, no statement of responsibility or any comment from the Government were available at the time of going to press.”

-From The Belfast Telegraph: 17th March 1986

“You do trust me Michael, don’t you?”

-Except from a conversation between the Prime Minister and the Home Secretary in March 1986.

No one at the time had the courage to even consider making a serious challenge to the Prime Minister at the time of the leadership election at the end of March. Many I know would have liked to, had I been in Parliament back then I may well have considered it, yet in the end, hardly any serious candidate had the guts to and Michael easily defeated the token challenge from Marcus Fox. However, the election was notable from the fact than well over 50 members of the Parliamentary Party abstained. I was a senior researcher for the Home Secretary at this point and Norman said afterwards that he would have stood had he seen how fragile Heseltine’s support really was.

The election only served to hold back the rumblings of dissent from the backbenches, the calm lasted until about September before it all came back in earnest following the publication of the draft plan for European integration. Then things really began to look serious. Of course, I was always loyal to the party leader, but one cannot always make a difference by oneself”

-Former Foreign Secretary Nigel Farage interviewed in “Sleepwalking towards Chaos: The Conservative Schism of 1987” Prof. Andrew Gamble: University of Cambridge Press, 2006.

“US President Russ Feingold has led tributes to Edward Kennedy, who died at his home in Connecticut on Sunday. Mr. Kennedy, who served as both a Senator and Secretary of State during his long career, was suffering from brain cancer at the time of his death at the age of 77. Speaking from Camp David, President Feingold described Mr. Kennedy as “an icon for all Americans, regardless of political background”.

-From BBCNews.co.uk: 26th August 2009

“Butterflies are all well and good, but even they can’t control cancer can they?”

-Curious comment overheard at the 2009 International Lepidopterology Congress
 
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