For a Gore Prosperous Tomorrow

Ficboy

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BLM is going to be interesting. It was founded in 2013 though they didn't get as much attention as more attention laid on the economy. Though the rise of progressives means most go toward reforms or local protests. However, police brutality and instigators will be a big thing and the Sanders Administration is gonna have to deal with the corruption within the police (which he would already plan to given the end of the War on Drugs)
Michael Brown and Eric Garner is what made the movement even relevant in the first place. The same goes for George Floyd.
 
Michael Brown and Eric Garner is what made the movement even relevant in the first place. The same goes for George Floyd.
A lot of African-American folk get killed in similar circumstances. You may switch the names or locations around, but the issues will still be there. The people still killed. And the issue will still be brought up.

You’re mentioning this a lot. Any particular reason?
 

Ficboy

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A lot of African-American folk get killed in similar circumstances. You may switch the names or locations around, but the issues will still be there. The people still killed. And the issue will still be brought up.

You’re mentioning this a lot. Any particular reason?
I'd rather not talk about. My political opinions are very different from yours as far as specific issues are concerned.
 

Ficboy

Banned
Anyone has other particular questions for 2018?
What about Star Wars and what's been happening with the franchise since Amblin not Disney bought it. I doubt the Expanded Universe would ever be erased at least not to the extent in OTL.
 
What about Star Wars and what's been happening with the franchise since Amblin not Disney bought it. I doubt the Expanded Universe would ever be erased at least not to the extent in OTL.
The Star Wars Expanded Universe being canned was a decision made by the Lucas folk, not Disney. They made it when they were planning the future trilogy and noted Chewbacca's death being a major factor.

In this timeline, it's halfsies. The stuff from before the prequels (like KOTOR and so on) remain canonical although probably there are plans for streamlining. Anything regarding sequels to the original trilogy. Yeah that's obviously going to be noncanonical. At most, they will probably try and include some of the stuff from the more beloved sections (I guess Thrawn trilogy mainly) regarding influences.
 

Ficboy

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The Star Wars Expanded Universe being canned was a decision made by the Lucas folk, not Disney. They made it when they were planning the future trilogy and noted Chewbacca's death being a major factor.

In this timeline, it's halfsies. The stuff from before the prequels (like KOTOR and so on) remain canonical although probably there are plans for streamlining. Anything regarding sequels to the original trilogy. Yeah that's obviously going to be noncanonical. At most, they will probably try and include some of the stuff from the more beloved sections (I guess Thrawn trilogy mainly) regarding influences.
Well that was more or less when Disney bought Star Wars and got the Lucasfilm people to do it. Plus Leland Chee's mention of Chewbacca's death doesn't appear to be the case with the other Lucasfilm members.
 
By the way, Amblin isn't a major media company like Disney so they may or may not buy Star Wars.
Depends on the deal and the merger details. Amblin Entertainment is still pretty big. Anyways, anything regarding 2018 in particular or not?
 

Ficboy

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Depends on the deal and the merger details. Amblin Entertainment is still pretty big. Anyways, anything regarding 2018 in particular or not?
My guess is that it might occur after George Lucas makes the first movie in his Midichlorians Sequel Trilogy starring Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, Han Solo, Sam/Skylar and Kira with Uber and Talon (or an expy of her) as the antagonist which means the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe will have to be massively retconned in order to fit the new trilogy and media would just place it before Star Wars: Legacy (the one with Cade Skywalker and Darth Krayt). It would also affect Star Wars: The Clone Wars since it would have a much longer Season 6 and a different Season 7 with more story arcs some of which were adopted to other mediums such as comics and novels or unfortunately never saw the light of day. Speaking of which Darth Revan and Darth Bane were going to appear in Season 3 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars where they are speaking to the Son as spirits and it was approved by George Lucas himself but cut because of his view of "no Sith force ghosts" then again considering that Mortis exists outside of time and space not to mention how extremely powerful the former is much like his sibling the Daughter and his parent well the Father. Perhaps the series in this universe includes the Revan-Bane deleted scene.

Anyway, George Lucas flip-flopped on his views on the Expanded Universe overall he was involved in it whether directly or indirectly some more than others such as Shadows of the Empire, Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003), The Force Unleashed and Labyrinth of Evil not to mention Star Wars: The Clone Wars used EU elements and ideas every now and then although how consistent it was varied given some of the radical changes. Sometimes he claimed it was some sort of "parallel universe" or his comments regarding the wars between the Jedi and the Sith but his other actions outright contradicted his claims such as what he said in the 1990s back when Star Wars canon was just developing or in the 2000s/2010s.

An Amblin Star Wars will be very different from the Disney version that some post-Lucas media such as Star Wars: Rebels, Rogue One, Jedi Fallen Order, the Sequel Trilogy and other stuff will be unrecognizable at times or never exist since the former in your opinion just deletes the post-Return of the Jedi which I doubt would happen given the different ownership or at least not to the extent seen in OTL.
 
An Amblin Star Wars will be very different from the Disney version that some post-Lucas media such as Star Wars: Rebels, Rogue One, Jedi Fallen Order, the Sequel Trilogy and other stuff will be unrecognizable at times or never exist since the former in your opinion just deletes the post-Return of the Jedi which I doubt would happen given the different ownership or at least not to the extent seen in OTL.
Well, the sequel trilogy is being directed by Nolan for starts, but beyond that, unsure about spin-offs or son. All depends on interest and so on
 
How has DreamWorks been doing ITTL?
After Rise of The Guardians wasn't the big success and afte a mixed bag, they would end up looking for buyers. Unlike OTL, which was NBCUniversal, here Dreamworks merged back with Amblin Entertainment after seeing the success coming from Star Wars and they hoped that would be of some help there
 
Yep!

What's happening with Electronic Arts, Bioware, Valve, and Telltale Games ITTL?

Will there still be a 'Dark Universe' ITTL?

Loud House? She-Ra? Bojack?
Electronic Arts would likely be suffering worse because all of their shady practices would be met with legal investigation and possibly retaliation. As such, I could see them possibly lose some of the companies they acquired around this time.

Bioware I am unsure of though if the above would happen, Bioware would either be spun as its own company or possibly be bought by or merge with a different company. Maybe they end up joining the Ubisoft-Rare duo. I mean, we have a French copany and British company so havign Canada join works XD

Valve and Steam would still be a popular juggernaut.

Unsure on Telltale Games though there is a possibility they could be saved, either by fan donations or perhaps the potential merger with Bioware as an alternate venue. Though they would've produced some different games on what was popular.

Hmmmm... probably no "Dark Universe"

Loud House is likely not made. Chris Savino would've ended up out for his crappy behavior back int he late 2000s.

She-Ra... well, maybe. This different culturla zeitgeist wouldn't be on such a nostalgia bend so it's unsure if they would dust that franchise off. If Noelle Stevenson would be able to successfully pitch it, it would be under Dreamworks/Amblin and so ithe changing would have to be shifted a bit a bit to not seem comparable to Star Wars, so it may stay closer to its sword and sorcery setting or at least play with it more.

Bojack would be different given how the large shake-ups and issues of the media industry occured sooner than OTL. Perhaps Bojack focuses on that time-period with the shake-ups or also reflects on what happens to older stars with the transition of the new. Probably not as heavy as OTL, but that's a reflection of the times
 
Sanders Administration- Winter 2019
On the home stretch now...

Winter 2019

"More news regarding the Eastern Orthodox churches then..."

"That's a pretty nice achievement for China..."

"Well, looks like Sanders got another position to fill!"


With the United States settling in with their new congressfolk and more victories for the progressives, the world continued to turn. Another trend was turning against Russia, especially as growing cybersecurity experts noted their usage of propaganda and social media trend manipulation attempts through bot farms. Unsurprisingly, this was leading to growing political isolation for the nation. One very prominent moment came in regarding the Eastern Orthodoxy faith. Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew ,the head of the global Orthodox Church, signed a document in Istanbul, Turkey. Specifically, it was a "tomos", a decree officially recognising an independent Ukrainian Orthodox Church, in the presence of the president of Ukraine, who travelled to Istanbul for the occasion. The tomos was handed over on Sunday after, and brought back to Ukraine on what is the Orthodox Christmas Eve and on Monday - Christmas Day - a celebration and rally took place in Kiev. Unsurprisingly, Russia did not take this well. Upset at losing its Ukrainian parishes, the Russian Orthodox Church would cut ties with the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the spiritual authority of the world's Orthodox Church. The issue was that the Ukrainian Orthodox Church has been under the Moscow Patriarchate for centuries, but tensions within the Church mounted after Ukraine became independent in 1991, with the collapse of the Soviet Union. These tensions grew worse over time, especially with the Crimea annexation incident. The Moscow branch of the Ukraine Church had to fend off accusations of being a tool of the Kremlin. Around the world, many took the announcemet well and another sign over the increased isolation for the Russian state.

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Celeberation and prayer held over in Kiev with the decision over from the Patriarchate of Constantinople.


Meanwhile, the other great potential superpower in China would be succeeding in its own endeavors, especially with its growing reforms to deal with the its politcial corruption, economic stagnations and the need for environmental reforms. At the same time, there were plenty of reasons to be cheerful. The big news came that the Chinese probe Chang'e 4 became the first artificial object to land on the far side of the Moon. The far side of the Moon is called as such because it is not visible from Earth due to tidal locking. Specifically, the site in question of the mission is Aitken Basin. Created from an ancient collision event on the Moon, it is now about 13 km (8.1 mi) deep, and it is thought that the massive impactor likely exposed the deep lunar crust, and probably the mantle materials. The hope is that if Chang'e 4 can find and study some of this material, it would get an unprecedented view into the Moon's internal structure and origins. Furthermore, Chang'e 4 marks the first major US-China collaboration in space exploration since the 2011 Congressional ban during the McCain Administration and then ban was voted to be removed in 2015/2016. Scientists from both countries had regular contact prior to the landing, whuch included talks about observing plumes and particles lofted from the lunar surface by the probe's rocket exhaust during the landing to compare the results with theoretical predictions. Overall, it was viewed as another fascinating venture into space and on the promise of further cooperation.

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First panorama from the far side of the Moon by Chang'e 4 lander, with the Yutu-2 rover

Back on Earth, the Sanders Administration began continuing their plans over for the economy along with other reforms. Plans included the Green New Deal, some potential police corruption and violence reforms, and various others such as housing. Furthermore, having grown his support in Congress, there has been a need to fill various vacant justice positions in to ensure they would remain fair. However, perhaps most noteworthy came the retirement of Supreme Justice Stephen Breyer. Discussions over his potential retirement began circulating for a while now, but it was confirmed after some talks with President Sanders. He was put in back during the Clinton years and many were surprised by how much time has passed since the and the opportunity to try and put someone in to further help people. Sanders would already have a viable choice selected in for the Supreme Court justice pick in Richard F. Boulware. He would be sworn in and accepted with relatively little complaint. Many would see this as Sanders taking more stances on racial inclusivity and diversity in his adminsitration and foreshadowing his plans that would be coming up over in the next year or so, especially since he would be running again in the next election, even with the remnants of the old Democrat structure resisting that idea. Beyond that, many were wondering who would be the next Supreme Court justice to retire, but rumors circulated it would be Anthony Kennedy.

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New Supreme Court member Richard F. Boulware

The Sotomayor Court
Sonia Sotomayor
Elena Kagan
Merrick Garland
Jane L. Kelly
Richard F. Boulware
Clarance Thomas
Brian Sandoval
Consuelo Callahan
Anthony Kennedy
 
1000 posts?! I can not believe we’ve made it this far and it’s almost the end! But yeah, wild ride.

After 2019, 2020 will be covered in an extended epilogue of sorts and I’ll answer some more questions if people have before the timeline will be considered complete
 
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