For a Gore Prosperous Tomorrow

If you REALLY want to improve things with US and Iran have McCain issue an apology for the airline that was shot down the US back in 89. It was a MAJOR sticking point in US Iran relations, and a CONSERVATIVE apologizing would help clear the air and mend fences. McCain might get flack from his party but overall it would boost his image.
 
If you REALLY want to improve things with US and Iran have McCain issue an apology for the airline that was shot down the US back in 89. It was a MAJOR sticking point in US Iran relations, and a CONSERVATIVE apologizing would help clear the air and mend fences. McCain might get flack from his party but overall it would boost his image.
Yeah, but I don’t know if McCain would be the type to do so, at least now. It could be a potential idea down the line though.
 
McCain Administration Autumn 2009
It's coming...

Autumn 2009

"What the fruad is going on here?!"

"Journalism is more important than ever now..."


Autumn of 2009 was filled with an unusual sense of dread for some reason. Rumors of economic disparity was talked upon within the upper echeleons. Concerns over housing loans, the banks, money bubbles and so much more filled the air with anxiety. And perhaps nothing else signaled this than the case in which Pfizer pleaded guilty to the illegal marketing of the arthritis drug Bextra for uses unapproved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and agreed to a $2.3 billion settlement, the largest health care fraud settlement at that time. However, people remained hopeful and determined. There was some good to look forward to after all, especially as some tensions in the Middle East were cooling down. The Israel government and people began a gradual shift leftward with a basic framework to Palestine statehood and while Jerusalem remained a hot button topic, the question was pushed to the side until Palestine would be ready to begin negotiations, having paused them. Said negotiations were paused primarily of logistical reasons as the Palestinians, taking Gore's words regarding Bin Laden those years ago to heart, worked first to have a stable state that could run on its own first. So even with the potential economic troubles, things looked okay. In other news, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil is chosen by the International Olympic Committee chosen to host the 2016 Summer Olympics, which got some excitement though the US felt some disappointment since Chicago was the early favorite.


The Guardian photograph from the article

Meanwhile though, the year continued with strife and stress for people domestically and abroad. Near the end of September, at least 157 demonstrators are massacred by the Guinean military at the Stade du 28 Septembre during a protest against the government that came to power in a coup d'état the previous year. Greater calls for democracy were made and a couple days later, A 7.6 Mw earthquake strikes Sumatra, Indonesia, with a maximum Mercalli intensity of VIII (Severe), leaving at least 1,115 people dead. As volunteers and aid went to try and help the people of Sumatra recover from such a disasterous Earthquake. However, the most horrific incicident was that known as the e Maguindanao massacre . In the Philippines, at least 58 people are abducted and killed in the province of Maguindanao, in what the Committee to Protect Journalists called the single deadliest attack on journalists in history. The entire reason for such a horrific event was that the 58 victims were on their way to file a certificate of candidacy for Esmael Mangudadatu, vice mayor of Buluan, when they were kidnapped and later killed. Mangudadatu was challenging Datu Unsay mayor Andal Ampatuan Jr., son of the incumbent Maguindanao governor Andal Ampatuan Sr. and member of one of Mindanao's leading Muslim political clans. The 2010 elections were postponed and the probince was put into martial law to handle the colossal incident while arrests and investigations were made. Calls were made to honor the fallen journalists and some have even began spreading a campaign to raise awareness


Monument, National Press Club of the Philippines


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Not much just that a.) unemployment’s gonna be awful b.) depending on how the response goes a lot more people are gonna get hurt.

Here’s the wiki article about otl recession.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession#United_States_policy_responses

my advice is to use that as a sorta ground work. Also compare how Hoover handled it
 
hm ittl with the split of microsoft and other punishments against big bussinesses there will be a bigger uproar if the government starts saving banks. Also the people will call for more criminal investigation into the banks etc.
The chances of reelection go really down if the president goes for a pro big bussiness solution.
 
In US the main point is if McCain will be able to save American car industry as he and GOP opposed financial bailout, blaming unions and proposing more free trade instead. The GOP could try to blame Gore environmental rules too, calling them too expensive for American companies, but McCain was a pro-environment conservative so I think he would put a veto on that.
A quicker collapse of American heavy industries (and mining sector) could cause opposite reactions, both an earlier call for something like the "Green New Deal", promotion of green energy, new national plan for clean infrastructures and high tech incentives, and an earlier surge of a populism with rural-steel towns appeal like Trumpism (Trump considered running in 2012, or maybe Ron Paul or someone other) ready to run in Midwestern, Great Lakes states with a platform of protectionism against "disloyal" trade partners and deregulation.
PS it's not linked with US Recession topic but it's possible that, with more environmental regulations, the Flint Water Crisis will be detected earlier, in early 2014, avoiding a bunch of sickness and deaths bad covered by a layer of political corruption? This probably would cause a fall of political fortunes of Governor Rick Snyder, preventing his reelection.
 
In US the main point is if McCain will be able to save American car industry as he and GOP opposed financial bailout, blaming unions and proposing more free trade instead. The GOP could try to blame Gore environmental rules too, calling them too expensive for American companies, but McCain was a pro-environment conservative so I think he would put a veto on that.
A quicker collapse of American heavy industries (and mining sector) could cause opposite reactions, both an earlier call for something like the "Green New Deal", promotion of green energy, new national plan for clean infrastructures and high tech incentives, and an earlier surge of a populism with rural-steel towns appeal like Trumpism (Trump considered running in 2012, or maybe Ron Paul or someone other) ready to run in Midwestern, Great Lakes states with a platform of protectionism against "disloyal" trade partners and deregulation.
PS it's not linked with US Recession topic but it's possible that, with more environmental regulations, the Flint Water Crisis will be detected earlier, in early 2014, avoiding a bunch of sickness and deaths bad covered by a layer of political corruption? This probably would cause a fall of political fortunes of Governor Rick Snyder, preventing his reelection.
Al Gore managed to help get the American car industry a fighting chance back here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/for-a-gore-prosperous-tomorrow.469925/page-16#post-19956976

That and 8 years of Gore have changed things. Gonna be harder for people to make accusations regarding environmental rules. Trump is not much of a name since "The Apprentice" never got made and he probably wouldn't be able to run for one reason or another.
 
The recession happened a year after the housing market burst.


depending on how badly it’s handled McCain may be a one term president
Which is what is happening now. It's all coming to a head, but I would like help for how a delay of 2 years as well as the years of Gore would change things. I have an article to help plus another issue will give something of an opportunity for McCain
 
hm ittl with the split of microsoft and other punishments against big bussinesses there will be a bigger uproar if the government starts saving banks. Also the people will call for more criminal investigation into the banks etc.
The chances of reelection go really down if the president goes for a pro big bussiness solution.
Granted, most people were okay with the bailouts until months after they passed and realized what they actually were.
 
McCain Administration- Overview 2009
2009 In Review

When people were going into the McCain Administration, they were unsure of what to expect. They certainly did not expect foreign troubles to pop up all over the place, the return of racial tensions or the econimic anxeities. Despite this, the McCain Administration soldiered on, even if they were not able to pass much of their agenda. While McCain did swing more to the center on certain issues and intelligent enough to not touch certain hot buttons (he was an environmentalist conservative and decided to avoid touching anything of Planned Parenthood), the political factions that were fighting were still seen clearly within both parties and beyond. The foreign troubles did cause for some proposals to increase the military budget, even after the debacle of the various audits of the Pentagon though McCain was successful in increasing funding in military cybersecurity. Additionally, some of the standards in some department were modestly adjusted, likely done to try and not cause too much trouble over on the home front with the people. McCain maintained a focused on troubles abroad; he wanted to utilize Gore increasing the US's prestige to try and justify going in ad resolving economic problems in nations. Support has been mixed for this though the troubles have caused people to consider it may needed. A notable example being Honduras and as talks for new elections fell through, the task of dealing with the intertim government became a discussion. Talks with the OAS regarding a military intervention to restore Zelaya though the details remained in discussion, especially regarding Venezuela leading and possibly even getting Cuba involved.

The economy became the main concern with the autumn seeing the housing bubble burst and the people suddenly entering a state of panic over it along with companies though some hopes remained there. However, it did lead to more talks internationally in concerns over the global economy and the potential problems it could have. Additionally, the speculations over a recession meant that some people were bunkering down. Others meanwhile focused on working to maintain their jobs gained in the few couple of years thanks to the improved Gore economy. Despite the optimism of the Americans, the atmosphere of anxiety and tension remained in the air. Environmentalist messages remained after Gore's departure, even if they are being overshadowed by the concerns of the economy and military risings. At the same time though, this has been leading to a merging of environmentalists and with labour unions and other economics as there was the growing thought that the current economic model and consumerist mindset was a problem tied to it. Meanwhile, some of the more conservative folks, initially relieved that McCain got into power, began growing a little disenheartened by the results, but tried to remain firm. There was a sense in the air that something big was coming.

Pop culture continued on from where last year left off. The aim toward more action-oriented or at least more serious story-telling in adult animation meant that focuses shifted a bit and more chances were taken on different films. Dreamworks' adaptation of of the urban fantasy novel Gil's All-Fright Diner became a cult classic and signaled a bit of a turn for Dreamworks. Disney meanwhile fared well with Princess and the Frog though not enough, concerning them if they could stay in with traditional animation or if they should begin switching to CGI. The topic had come up and after the procedures with Pixar went nowhere outside of Disney continuing to distribute them, Disney did begin funding programs to help get CGI animators to come in. Pixar's Up did quite well in comparison. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince also faired well with a surprise hit being G.I. Joe: Rise of COBRA by Micheal Bay. After rejecting to direct the proposed Transformers film and its subsequent shelving, Micheal Bay was invited to do G.I. Joe, being more up his alley and of course, given support from the military. The plot revolved around the reveal of the secret team known as the G.I. Joes, a top secret American-based team of commandos and their subsequent encounter with the organization known as COBRA, the Counterintelligence Operations Battalion of Regenade Agents, a terrorist organization of mercenaries, spies and assassins who's purpose is destablizing nations for the purpose of global hegemony through shadow governments. However, perhaps nothing was as expected as the large-scale work that was Avatar. Known for pushing the CGI to the limits and the 3D spectacle, it did push into call the idea of 3D graphics though it was still pretty nebulous. Television meanwhile would see the rise of many popular shwos such as Glee, Parks & Recreation and Community. Notably one was Archer, an animated parody of spy films and tropes, it began restoring some faith in Western adult animation in comedy, competiting against Futurama and South Park. However, the big news in media was Disney purchasing Marvel early in the year as Marvel wished to secure their future endeavors after the shaky ground in the restructuring of their continuity. However, this leave questions regarding the remaining film and television rights scattered across non-Marvel properties. While Disney was in no rush to obtain the X-Men film rights due to Marvel's decision to seperate them from the main Marvel comic focus, they did focus on obtaining Fantastic Four and Spider-Man. Iron Man's success and the lackluster results of Incredible Hulk led to some debate on the future of comic book heroes, at least with Marvel. However, the production chaos and subsequent cancellation of Spider-Man 3 along with leaked scripts and further Sony financial problems forced them to the negotiating table. Disney would purchase the full Spider-Man and associated characters film rights and television rights as the new owner of Marvel though Sony would get in exchange exclusivity for Spider-Man video games appearing on Playstation consoles (though Spidey could still appear in non-console exclusive games where he was not the main focus.) After months of debate, it has been confirmed that Spectacular Spider-Man would continue and be confirmed for a third and fourth season. Additionally, Disney secured the film rights to Fantastic 4 back from 21st Century Fox after the disappointment of Rise of the Silver Surfer.

Speaking of video games, many new popular games have been released this year. Batman: Arkham Asylum, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II and New Super Mario Bros Wii were all massive big hits to get this year. The Xbox and SEGA then released a new exclusive IP with Bayonetta while Nintendo surprised eveyrone with an exclusive like Madworld. The release date of the two led to jokes of the two characters dating on social media, which the companied noted with humor. Rare established some more games for the Nintendo Wii such as The Fast and the Furriest, a crazy cart-building game that goes through challenges (think Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts meets Diddy Kong Racing) or Other games such as Brutal Legends, Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, and many others have been getting intense attention and the Wii racing neck and neck against the Xbox 360 while the Playstation 3 struggled along. Despite the competition, the two companies remained on amicable terms, likely due to how Nintendo assisted Microsoft with the Xbox. The companies tended to have talks in regards and rumors circulated one of those talks led to discussions in regarding the potential successor to the Nintendo DS. According to rumor, Nintendo had considered trying for 3D graphics much like the attempt with the Virtual Boy years prior, but Microsoft convinced them otherwise not just because of the limitations, but the lack of real popularity for it, noting that 3-D graphics were viewed as short-lasting though the talks ov virtual reality did remain. Furthermore, online games were becoming big with League of Legends and revolutionary game known as Minecraft was released for people to try and change out. The online world was also changing. Project MAY would be entering negotiations, though it appeared that most of the core contract stuff would continue, though some say a new partner would join in OpenFilm, a website devoted for the finding and distributing of independent films, allowing for more potential than what could be done just on Youtube. More and more people were looking to try and make money online by showcasing their talents and creativity. Other websites looked for venues or ways of advertisements though many were wary of going through such venues. Social media was becoming a bigger part of people's lives, especially as smart phones were becoming more available. Interestingly enough, this also led to a growing group of misfits: people who liked repairing their own devices, environmentalists and so on who showed concern in the effect that new technologies would have on the environment. In music, many would claim it was the end of the mainstream dominance of pop punk, noted with the death of Micheal Jackson and the beginning of the Great Recession, providing a new feeling of anxiety and anger for musicians and other artists to draw upon in the oncoming months.
 
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So Windows never bought Rare? What kept them afloat?
Microsoft never bought Rare because after they split, Microsoft Operations merged with SEGA instead. Rare probably got more help with Nintendo over time before their sorta-merger with Ubisoft. Rare still focuses mainly their stuff on Nintendo and while Ubisoft still makes games for all consoles, they are growing closer to Nintendo.
 
Nintendo had considered trying for 3D graphics much like the attempt with the Virtual Boy years prior, but Microsoft convinced them otherwise not just because of the limitations, but the lack of real popularity for it, noting that 3-D graphics were viewed as short-lasting though the talks ov virtual reality did remain.
Why would even Nintendo hear MS in that regard? Handhelds are always a different departament than consoles
 
Why would even Nintendo hear MS in that regard? Handhelds are always a different departament than consoles
I'm thinking it was just a casual friendly meeting and the topic probably came up when Avatar was talked about. Rumors have some hint of truth, but not entirely accurate. I reckon it was more talking about 3D, which led to a talk on the Virtual Boy and probably on how niche 3D is when it comes to appeal. Sure it's neat, but it doesn't provide anything.

Hence why I mentioned it was just rumors.
 
I'm thinking it was just a casual friendly meeting and the topic probably came up when Avatar was talked about. Rumors have some hint of truth, but not entirely accurate. I reckon it was more talking about 3D, which led to a talk on the Virtual Boy and probably on how niche 3D is when it comes to appeal. Sure it's neat, but it doesn't provide anything.

Hence why I mentioned it was just rumors.
yeah....yeah. Still 3D was something thinkered if was to be an special edition or the whole console added value, still the original idea would have been a proto switch if the other rumor was true(using Nvidia Chip over the 3D Pica one),as say before that feels forced, specially with MS, like saying 'US Advice is superior', make little sense
 
yeah....yeah. Still 3D was something thinkered if was to be an special edition or the whole console added value, still the original idea would have been a proto switch if the other rumor was true(using Nvidia Chip over the 3D Pica one),as say before that feels forced, specially with MS, like saying 'US Advice is superior', make little sense
More just one company reflecting thoughts on the other. The Wii is still a sucess like in OTL, but the competition between it and the Xbox 360 is much stiffer, even if they have different tastes. I reckon consoles weren't talk about at first. Probably remarking on Avatar's graphcis, the 3D graphics phenomenon and questioning its relevancy outside novelty. And companies influence each other and so on, like Microsoft and Sony's own forays into motion-based gameplay. Nintendo is certainly quite innovative, but stiffer competition means being smarter in how to take chances.
 
More just one company reflecting thoughts on the other. The Wii is still a sucess like in OTL, but the competition between it and the Xbox 360 is much stiffer, even if they have different tastes. I reckon consoles weren't talk about at first. Probably remarking on Avatar's graphcis, the 3D graphics phenomenon and questioning its relevancy outside novelty. And companies influence each other and so on, like Microsoft and Sony's own forays into motion-based gameplay. Nintendo is certainly quite innovative, but stiffer competition means being smarter in how to take chances.
3DS issue was price not 3D, but 3D did not make it cheaper...the thing is..take away the 3D and them what? 2ds was a very slow seller too, The original idea( a proto switch as in play it portable and them you can play it on the console in a wii u equivalent powered by Nvidia) failed as NVIDIA failed to get enough chips at enough good prize at times.

I still not buy that,better erase that line.
 
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