Football timeline request thread...

With the new season coming, I've decided to load up FM2011 and make a timeline around it for the coming season. I'm going to amend the Scottish league into a 16 team top flight, with a league cup with group stages to make the games up.

I think I'm loading the Scottish and English leagues. If you want any other national leagues loaded, give me a shout. I'll copy the results over.

First ten get in.
 
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Why not have the enitre leaguesystem and make things really intresting when Chinese clubs come hunting for your prospects with more money than Barca had to pay for Zlatan Ibrahimovich:)
 
Why not have the enitre leaguesystem and make things really intresting when Chinese clubs come hunting for your prospects with more money than Barca had to pay for Zlatan Ibrahimovich:)
Because I'm going to be basing it on a game I'm loading up, and I sadly don't have the capacity for a global game. I'll load the Chinese league if you want, although I doubt they'll become world beaters. The Swedish league?
 
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Is the J-League in the new ones? Or MLS? They could be the leagues that could do the loadsamoney thing.

What about a single league covering either the Nordic and Baltic countries or a Balkans one? Will post possible lineups for those two. A league with teams like Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade, Galatasaray et al would be a big draw.
 
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Is the J-League in the new ones? Or MLS? They could be the leagues that could do the loadsamoney thing.

What about a single league covering either the Nordic and Baltic countries or a Balkans one? Will post possible lineups for those two.
The MLS is certainly doable as is the J-League. Again, a Nordic League should be possible, although I think expanding and bringing back the Royal League may be the way to go there as UEFA aren't keen on multi-national leagues. I'll leave it for you to decide.

If we are going down that route, what about the top Irish clubs(North and South)joining the Scottish League?

So far then thats

The MLS
The J-League
Nordic League(possibly)
Balkans League(possibly)

Actually, if you want multi-national constructs, what about actually introducing the Atlantic League, an Eastern European on(aka the old Soviet League), a Central European one, and a Balkan one.

It will take a hell of a lot of work to set up though.
 
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Is the J-League in the new ones? Or MLS? They could be the leagues that could do the loadsamoney thing.

MLS is, but due to licensing issues the J-League isn't (though people have made downloadable versions). Also, non-European leagues suffer from it being impossible to change how many continental qualification places they get, so it's difficult to bring in loadsa money.

I sadly don't have the capacity for a global game

You maybe do - my computer advises me to load no more than 24000 players in 4 nations, but in my current save I have 169000 players in 64 nations, and it runs just fine, if a little slowly.

You could load the Irish and Northern Irish Leagues so Scottish and English teams have somewhere to steal youth prospects from.
 
MLS is, but due to licensing issues the J-League isn't (though people have made downloadable versions). Also, non-European leagues suffer from it being impossible to change how many continental qualification places they get, so it's difficult to bring in loadsa money.
You can manually add the J-League in the editor. I can also change the prize money to silly money. I don't mind editing to merge leagues etc. I was originally planning a 16 team SPL after all, although adding Linfield, Glentoran, Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers may add another dimension and more importantly, more TV money. The same argument which allowed NZ clubs into the A-League could be used in wanting them to join a fully-professional league.
You maybe do - my computer advises me to load no more than 24000 players in 4 nations, but in my current save I have 169000 players in 64 nations, and it runs just fine, if a little slowly.

You could load the Irish and Northern Irish Leagues so Scottish and English teams have somewhere to steal youth prospects from.
If I merge a few of the leagues, I'll have less leagues to load.. ;)
 
I was originally planning a 16 team SPL after all, although adding Linfield, Glentoran, Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers may add another dimension and more importantly, more TV money.

I actually meant just having them active but separate, but the idea of a British Isles League is intriguing!
 
Sod the Nordic League if you want, on reflection I drew up the Southern League and there's mouthwatering football here. Qualification based on who is in Europe - in the Champions League quali stages or the Europa League playoffs round.

The only question is how many teams you want. This is a 20 team league, it's the Champions League (including qualifying teams) and later Europa League qualifying rounds (playoffs and 3rd qualifying round), less four kicked out by yours truly on a principle of kicking out teams that aren't as big names from the bottom of each country's qualifying but leaving every country with one. Buraspor from Turkey, POAK from Greece, Levski Sofia from Bulgaria and Rapid Bucharest - the only team from the Europa League Playoff round to not get a slot. I admit that Rapid Bucharest do seem an odd team to choose, but I wanted to make sure each team had one or two.

Skendija (Macedonia)
Mogren (Montenegro)
Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)
Red Star Belgrade (Serbia)
Maribor (Slovenia)
Fenerbahce (Turkey)
Trabzonspor (Turkey)
Besiktas (Turkey)
Otelul Galati (Romania)
Vaslui (Romania)
Steaua Bucharest (Romania)
Skenderbeu Korce (Albania)
Borac Banja Luka (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
Litex Lovech (Bulgaria)
CSKA Sofia (Bulgaria)
Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia)
Hajduk Split (Croatia)
Olympiacos (Greece)
Panathinaikos (Greece)
AEK Athens (Greece)

This would never happen in real life due to UEFA's one league one country rule (I would like to see some joint leagues, just to see less, better quality football) and the possibility of World War Three happening in the stadia, but this could be a quality league. It might even wind up on Serie A or Bundesliga level.

EDIT : If there's a Scottish-Irish league, bearing in mind we're not having one league one country, I'm going to fly up adding Cardiff City and Swansea City to make a sort of Magners League of football. It could become a league of Eredivisie strength.

So that could mean

Loadamoney MLS or J-League
My 20 team Baltic/Southern League
Eighteen team SPL + stronger Irish teams + Cardiff and Swansea City (name : Guinness League?)
 
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I actually meant just having them active but separate, but the idea of a British Isles League is intriguing!
Still unsure over which leagues to load.

What about the big 5, the Nordic nations(seperate or merged undecided), Irish teams joining the SPL, Balkans League? Portugese League? Dutch? Belgian? Low Countries League?

So many ideas...
 
This would never happen in real life due to UEFA's one league one country rule (I would like to see some joint leagues, just to see less, better quality football) and the possibility of World War Three happening in the stadia, but this could be a quality league.
I'll find a way. :p

Also, UEFA aren't hard and fast on this. link
EDIT : If there's a Scottish-Irish league, bearing in mind we're not having one league one country, I'm going to fly up adding Cardiff City and Swansea City to make a sort of Magners League of football.
Would Swansea give up the Premiership? Cardiff the Championship?
 
Cardiff could give up the Championship if they could be a big fish in a smaller, but still top level pond. Swansea, well, in the nicest possible way I think this could be a "guest appearance" in the Premiership shall we say. Also, presumably this league would get Wales' European slots so they would have a crack at Europe rather than Airbus UK or whoever.

EDIT : I'm not actually suggesting it, but what do we all think about a Benelux League? Or kicking some Portuguese teams into La Liga? Thinking aloud here.

EDIT 2 : Is it possible for you to - and here I'm talking internationals as well as club if you can - merge OFC in to the AFC? Would be interesting to see New Zealand having to play more matches against quality teams to get in to the World Cup. But if you can't do it you can't, the newest Football Manager I have is '06 I think so I don't know how you can tweak the database in the newer ones.
 
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Cardiff could give up the Championship if they could be a big fish in a smaller, but still top level pond. Swansea, well, in the nicest possible way I think this could be a "guest appearance" in the Premiership shall we say. Also, presumably this league would get Wales' European slots so they would have a crack at Europe rather than Airbus UK or whoever.

EDIT : I'm not actually suggesting it, but what do we all think about a Benelux League? Or kicking some Portuguese teams into La Liga? Thinking aloud here.

EDIT 2 : Is it possible for you to - and here I'm talking internationals as well as club if you can - merge OFC in to the AFC? Would be interesting to see New Zealand having to play more matches against quality teams to get in to the World Cup. But if you can't do it you can't, the newest Football Manager I have is '06 I think so I don't know how you can tweak the database in the newer ones.
To be honest, whilst I really like the idea of Cardiff and Swansea, I just can't see a way of it happening without resorting to alien space bats or them both going bust and being re-formed.

You can't tweak national teams sadly. Thats the one thing set hard and fast.

I've had a few ideas. Hopefully covering everything mentioned so far. Gonna check it out and then come back to you..
 
As I said, European spots - if this league got Wales' European slots, Cardiff and Swansea would get European participation, which even with a league that isn't as strong as the Premiership, may well make it more viable. The only question is how many Scottish teams are in the league - I guess you plan to have all the SPL teams, right? What if it were to be, say, the top six that made the split? Thinking aloud here, it's your simulation so you can do what you want.
 
As I said, European spots - if this league got Wales' European slots, Cardiff and Swansea would get European participation, which even with a league that isn't as strong as the Premiership, may well make it more viable. The only question is how many Scottish teams are in the league - I guess you plan to have all the SPL teams, right? What if it were to be, say, the top six that made the split? Thinking aloud here, it's your simulation so you can do what you want.
Thats the elephant in the room. At the moment, if I loaded it the Irish teams would all finish in the bottom spots. The worst teams in the SPL are stronger than any of the teams in the Irish leagues. Cardiff and Swansea would at least strengthen the league, although I doubt either would displace the Old Firm.

I've actually changed my mind a wee bit.

Maybe creating a superclub from Belfast, one from Dublin and Cork? I'm am pleased your debating this as it helps irons out any problems that may occur.
 
How many seasons are you going to run this for? The Irish clubs would strengthen as they got better football, like some of the clubs in the Southern League would start of as a joke (like the Albanian team, for example). I don't know which teams I'd choose for Ireland, I'd consider putting Derry City if you want to keep it as one club per city - it's a well supported club IIRC.

I don't know if Cardiff City or Swansea City would challenge the Old Firm, it's the age-old debate about how they would do in the English pyramid again. A third Welsh team might be an option, who I don't know.
 
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As in the national champions, or as in each league having its own places? That would defeat the object of the Celtic League though. Perhaps enter those teams - and the Southern League teams - in to the national cups, and give the cups the European places? Is that possible?

EDIT : Just saying, depending on the number of teams in the league, the Celtic League could benefit from spreading the games around for TV if you can do that. It just depends how many SPL teams you want.

EDIT2 : On the Southern League, what about Cyprus and Moldova? Should they go in, if so at whose expense?

EDIT3 : If we're doing Super Leagues, I think there are a few more possibilities that could go in, it's just how to fit them in.
 
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