Well according to Donald Mackenzie's Tales of Scottish Myth and Legend and Walter Scott.
Along with Eric B. Ross who did an article on it in some Sciencey magazine and a few others. I remember reading it somewhere.
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Well according to Donald Mackenzie's Tales of Scottish Myth and Legend and Walter Scott.
Along with Eric B. Ross who did an article on it in some Sciencey magazine and a few others. I remember reading it somewhere.
the_lyniezian
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so what're you doing among the heathen blaspheming Protestants?
seriously - first God tells Moses et al about the 600+ laws to be kept, including which animals are/aren't permitted to be eaten....and then God comes along and says "nevermind, you don't have to keep all 600+ laws."
sounds like God changed His Mind.
But the law wasn't even given until the time of Moses: Abraham, Issaac, Jacob etc. weren't expected to keep them!
the_lyniezian
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I'm not trying to judge anyone. Just pointing out that it might not be such a good idea.
Keenir
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but everyone in that span of time between Moses and Jesus were expected to keep to those laws.
so...was God playing a trick on them, or did God change His Mind?
the_lyniezian
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No and no! I'm not sure precisely the nature of why the law was created- Romans explains it far better than I can. But I know that the law was in some way 'put to death' along with Jesus, for those who believe on Him. The law is meant to show up man's sinfulnes, and presumably to help him keep within the bounds of God's will- but even that is not required anymore, since God now offers us His Spirit, Who will guide us in the right way to go. I dare say if I examine the Bible properly, I could give you a better and more accurate answer!
Why ...
Even Presuming that God Actually Exists, which is in itself Not a Fact in Evidence ...
Aren't you Also Positing, that he Even Gives a Rat's Ass?
Keenir
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so now you're suggesting that God changed His Mind? after all, you rightly pointed out that nothing can stop an all-powerful being....so what stopped Him from offering His Spirit in the time of Moses?
Why ...
Even Presuming that God Actually Exists, which is in itself Not a Fact in Evidence ...
Aren't you Also Positing, that he Even Gives a Rat's Ass?
There's no real reason to take such a tone. He's merely saying that it's not really something he's comftable with when people have a POD which says that God said soimething he didn't. I count myself as being Liberal in my beliefs but I don't really feel that such a POD is something I can take so flippantly.
Because,until the incarnation of Jesus sin could not be forgiven,also God can change His mind,didn't Abraham bargain with Him about the punishment of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Why ...
I Mean, if I was The Grande KING of All Creation ...
I'd Have Much Better Things to Do, than to Peruse Web Boards Looking for Potentially Blasphemous Posts!
Ah Yes, The Olde Chestnut ...
Is God Powerful Enough to Change his OWN Future Mind ...
Kinda Puts Omnipotence and Omniscience in The Ring Together, Doesn't it?
Why ...
I Mean, if I was The Grande KING of All Creation ...
I'd Have Much Better Things to Do, than to Peruse Web Boards Looking for Potentially Blasphemous Posts!
Outsource it.
Ah Yes, The Olde Chestnut ...
Is God Powerful Enough to Change his OWN Future Mind ...
Kinda Puts Omnipotence and Omniscience in The Ring Together, Doesn't it?
Omniscience is incompatible with Free Will...
Even God cannot have Free Will if God (or anyone else) has omniscience...
The Mind wouldn't change, since it was predetermined to think in a certain way at a certain time...
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I've studied this waaayyy too much...
Outsource it.
Omniscience is incompatible with Free Will...
Even God cannot have Free Will if God (or anyone else) has omniscience...
The Mind wouldn't change, since it was predetermined to think in a certain way at a certain time...
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I've studied this waaayyy too much...
How omniscience and free will can coexist is a divine mystery and man should have no business trying to understand it.
No...
It is logically impossible...
Even God can't make a square circle...
Since when has that ever stopped anything?
If everyone took that view, we wouldn't have left the dark ages...
No...
It is logically impossible...
Even God can't make a square circle...
Since when has that ever stopped anything?
If everyone took that view, we wouldn't have left the dark ages...
The Dark Ages are solely confined to WE Europe,in the east there was a powerful empire which had no problem whit this.
Also on free will and omniscience,what about calvinism and predestination?
I never said otherwise...
The development of technology at that level doesn't have much bearing on the scientific development...
What about it?
Free will requires that the future remains unknown...
If one knows everything, then that means that one knows what will happen in the future. Therefore, there is no free will.
Methinks we're getting a bit off-topic here.
I could go on, explaining how Jesus is a sin sacrifice in accordance with Leviticus 4, and how he is the ruler foretold in Micah 5:2-5a and the servant foretold in Isaiah 52:15; 53, but i don't feel like it right now.
Changes in the law are not due to changes in God, but changes in the world. As cultures change, so does what they understand and what they are prepared to understand. In the time of Moses, the Israelites' worldview wouldn't have allowed them to understand the New Testament conception of Jesus. Biblical proof of this is in the story of the golden calf, found in Exodus 32, prologued in Exodus 24, 31:18. Besides being sent to a time that was better prepared to understand a more abstract way of salvation, partially due to influence of Greek philosophy, sending Jesus at that time was proactive in that the Temple was destroyed 40 years after his death, thus scattering those of the Jewish faith, and also in that the line of Aaron has been lost, rendering it impossible to perform most of the sacrifices detailed in Leviticus in accordance with the law, which requires the sacrifices be performed by "Aaron's sons the priests", which is in Leviticus 1:5,7,8,11, 2:2, 3:5,8,13 and in further verses, more than i care to detail here.
I could go on, explaining how Jesus is a sin sacrifice in accordance with Leviticus 4, and how he is the ruler foretold in Micah 5:2-5a and the servant foretold in Isaiah 52:15; 53, but i don't feel like it right now.
I do posit that he both exists and cares. I further posit that belief in God is not prerequisite to being a bigot .Why ...
Even Presuming that God Actually Exists, which is in itself Not a Fact in Evidence ...
Aren't you Also Positing, that he Even Gives a Rat's Ass?
What he's saying is that some people are mature enough not to go around disrespecting other people's beliefs and/or opinions!Why ...
I Mean, if I was The Grande KING of All Creation ...
I'd Have Much Better Things to Do, than to Peruse Web Boards Looking for Potentially Blasphemous Posts!
And if i told a medieval philosopher about a Moebius strip without demonstrating it, could he understand the concept of an object with only one side?No...
It is logically impossible...
Even God can't make a square circle...
Without free inquiry into the nature of God, how can we reach reach a true understanding of Him? And if we're afraid to inquire into the nature of God, how many other things will we be afraid to inquire into? Causes of weather, nature of disease, genetics, all could be viewed as the sole province of God, so what business do we have studying them? I, for one, am grateful for tetanus shots and penicillin.Since when has that ever stopped anything?
If everyone took that view, we wouldn't have left the dark ages...
Keenir
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worship of Ba'al or a Ba'al-related deity is proof that they can't understand the concept of a living God?
after living in Egypt for so long, the Jews would've been familiar with the concept of a God of Life (Osiris) who defeats death.
so in other words, they did understand the concept of Jesus - contrary to what you said earlier in your post to which I'm replying.
They were worshipping a Ba'al at the time of Moses? Where do you get that?worship of Ba'al or a Ba'al-related deity is proof that they can't understand the concept of a living God?
You misunderstand my meaning. The New Testament conception of God is of a God that requires no temple other than the believer's heart, no priest other than Jesus, no sacrifices beyond Jesus. I'm not sure people then had a long enough attention span to worship that kind of god. If you accept Exodus as truth, the Israelites certainly didn't. Few enough people now can handle that.
Doubtless.
I partially explained this above, but having a prophecy is different from understanding the prophecy. Look at the amount of time and energy people waste trying understand Nostradamus! There is also a logical leap from cutting a bull's throat or wrenching a dove's head to a man voluntarily offering himself for torture and death, purely out of love for people, some of whom will mock him and reject him and occassionally kill people who preach of this love.
Keenir
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apologies...which bull god were they worshipping?
Jesus and the Apostles also thought they were living in the End Times (hence the messianic nature)
if you think you're living in the final days of the world, you don't worry about how to appoint a successor.
what do attention spans have to do with anything?
the fact that Jesus said that people no longer had to do the full 613 Laws, suggests he was simplifying the faith -- in other words, reacting to the fact peoples' attention spans had gotten shorter, not longer.
comparing Isaiah to Nostradamus? I have to admit, I've never seen anyone do that before.
a logical leap people back then understood -- they had written language and money, after all.