Food in AH

How would food be like in a more advanced native american culture, specificaly in the south? Specificaly because I assume trade would increase, and all of a sudden people like the Aztecs have potatoes to work with and such.

How would that affect food now? Would we have tacos!? :eek:
I think that in order to get a more advanced Native culture, you must, must, must have increased trade and competition among far-flung peoples throughout both Americas. The Americas never suffered from a lack of total dietary options, rather, they suffered from a lack of local dietary options, because food at one end of the continent didn't make it to the other until the whites showed up with ships & such.

Plants are easy. For grains, corn and potatoes dominate, with rich people indulging in specialty grains like goosefoot, sumpweed, quinoa, and amaranth. For fruit, it's almost entirely berries, with some low-quality apples, too. For veggies, there's a wide variety, but the big shocker is that Americans would still be eating tons of squash. Squash is to Native America what turnips and cabbage were to Europe -- not very tasty, but ridiculously hardy and therefore a good safety crop.

Your main meat is now turkey. That's easy; OTL turkey farms already look like OTL chicken farms, just there's fewer. Now here's my gamble -- with 21st century technology, it looks like we're finally getting to the point where we can domesticate bison/buffalo. I bet that the Natives would have figured it out by now. So buffalo meat takes the place of beef. Finally, since there really aren't any other options, rabbits become the final major source of meat -- unless they are instead raised as pets.
 
What about large-scale semiferal patoralism? Northern Europe is home to great herds of reindeer which roam free, yet every last animal of which 'belongs' to a herder group. I know the same can be donme with caribou, and I believe deer may alsop be amenable. It means a nomadic or seminomadic lifestyle, but this could be limited to part of the population.
 
Culinary idea in a TL with Aztec/Incan contact: Roasted Guinea pig backfill of mashed potato and beans, covered by sausage of tomato and pepper. The heart is put in a little pike in the center of the table and reserved to the guest. :rolleyes:

In special occasions, this can be adapted to turkeys, dogs and prisoners of war (yum!).
 
Culinary idea in a TL with Aztec/Incan contact: Roasted Guinea pig backfill of mashed potato and beans, covered by sausage of tomato and pepper. The heart is put in a little pike in the center of the table and reserved to the guest. :rolleyes:

In special occasions, this can be adapted to turkeys, dogs and prisoners of war (yum!).

I've just got a mental image of Delia Smith standing on a table and roaring "For the glory of Quetzalcoatl!", while plunging a ceremonial knife into the heart of a hapless bystander.

:D
 
I had a friend rave (in the unpleasant manner) about the terrible consequences of Japanese and Mexican chefs collaborating. Wasabi and urchin egg burritos, birria miso, teriyaki cabeza...
 

Thande

Donor
I've just got a mental image of Delia Smith standing on a table and roaring "For the glory of Quetzalcoatl!", while plunging a ceremonial knife into the heart of a hapless bystander.

:D
Hilarious image :D Now all we need is Ainsley Harriot with 'Ooh, Barry Blood and Hattie Heart! We like a bit of that don't we ladies and gentlemen! We love human sacrifice, don't we? We love human sacrifice!' :rolleyes:


On the subject of food in AH, what about how European cuisine in general would have developed without the discovery of America &therefore the potato, chocolate, etc...
 
"McDonalds. Not tasty. The long line takes the fast out of fast food. Think of it, the taste takes the food out of fast food. But the hotel didnt keep up with the changes. Both service and food sucks there to. I must get out. They had six weeks since the Kim regime fell. Wh would have imagined a North Korean McDonalds"

-Contract worker. Pjonjang 1972
 
"I thught that it was just another German restaurant. It almost was. The beer, the wurst... It was good but not different from any other German restaurant. It was the art. Paintings everywhere. I asked and it turned ut that the first owner was an Austrian Painter."

-Tourist. Germany. 1972
 

ninebucks

Banned
From an embryonic TL of mine where Spain remains Islamic and eventually discovers America...

Mahmoud Rothriqesh, proprieter of 'Ta'aam al-Mahmoud', al-Layn, Federal Jumhurriyat of am-Maghriqqa (OTL Mexico City, US of Mexico):
"I am not going to lie to you, the food that I sell is not 'fancy', I would not serve it to the Sultan of Cordoba... I'm not sure if I am even capable of producing food for His Eminence's tastes... but that is not who I am. I make simple food for simple people. Take this for example, (he says as his young hijab'd assistant chef hands him a bowl to take to a nearby table), look, this is just a simple dish of quinoa and couscous, mashed up together. It is food for the gut, not for the tongue, maybe for the heart, but that is not for where they are intended... they are good enough for Ahmed! (the customer, apparently Ahmed, waves his arm at Mahmoud's direction) Ahmed has been eating here for as long as I can remember, he says he spent his first honestly-earnt dinar on a pitta and a bag of herbs. I can't remember... you'd have to ask his wife where that first dinar went, she is the one who controls his finances! (We stop speaking for a while as he takes a customer's order) Speaking of finances, I am having some trouble competing since the Emiralbahl's opened across the street... people come in here expecting one of the big fat shawarmas that they sell over there, draped in crisped banana-leaf and dripping with polonais sauce... as you know, I like to keep things simple!"

Kamerón Kłync, head chef, Pod Krzyzykiem, Łódź, Polish Rzeczpospolita:
We Poles are very proud of our culinary heritage! The Rzeczpospolita has always been at the forefront of the gastronomic arts, yourself, where are you from? (I reply that I am from Sassenachy) Ahh, the Sassenachs... terrible chefs, what are you eating over there? Ox-heart and clotted cream? No, no, Polish cuisine has always been about the balancing of what compliments, and what contrasts, say if I were to have a joint of beef, I would fillet it thinly... make it easier to digest, none of these uncouth slabs of meat you eat in Western Europe. The human tongue can only taste the outside of food, you have to increase the surface area of a meat as much as possible so that the flavours practically melt in your mouth. Fish, aswell, any decent meat dish must have fish, if the slices are thin enough you can stack different layers of meat and fish... it allows the moisture to travel from the wet fish into the dry meat and improves the taste of both. And, of course, a diced, roasted, spicy tomato garnish is a must for such a dish! And on the side, some of these! (He shows me a plate of tiny dumplings, scarcely more than a centimetre in width each) I am renound for these, they say I can make the smallest dumplings outside of Kraków, each one is packed with a single strain of sauerkraut and the finest Thai chilli powders... mmm... You must only eat them one at a time, mind you. To scoff is uncouth. (As the conversation ebbs I remark that the kitchen is remarkably hot) The heat is essential! All Polish food must come out of the kitchen as hot as Jehovah allows! (Why? I ask) So you can tell how quickly it cools down. Polish food is specifically designed to take as long to eat as physically possible. The food must be hot when you receive it so you can appreciate it when it has become ice cold, (he smiles).
 
I wouldn't know what kind of TL would create this but I always joke to my Cambodian friend about these names because he is a restauranteur himself:

How about an alternate KFC chain (Kampuchean Flavoursome Cuisine)
or maybe :eek: :eek: :eek: KKK (Kambodian Kuisine Kafe), this one my mate did not like so much
 
If chillis were not brought back from the New World, i'd doubt there would be Sichuan cuisine as you know it, South East Asian cuisine would also be drastically affected.
 
If chillis were not brought back from the New World, i'd doubt there would be Sichuan cuisine as you know it, South East Asian cuisine would also be drastically affected.

They'd just have to do what they did before and use pepper as the main heating ingredient. You'd be surprised what you can do with various peppers, especially the long pepper which is very similar to chilli and was used widely until chilli was introduced to the Old World. Chilli is easier to grow in a wider variety of places than long pepper and so the latter declined.
 
Well, I was thinking about a more powerful amaZulu and I came up with this.

Imbuzi kanye nabhatata.

Basically goat with sweet potatoes soaked with ushokolethi (chocolate) and a bit of amasi (sour fermented milk) on the side.

Sounds delicious!
 
Hendryk's TL has an Australia with a much stronger Chinese influence. I wonder if the influence permeates to the food. It would be fun to see a Chinese/Anglo-Australian/Indigenous fusion cuisine happening. I could just think of some of the dishes.

Kung Pao Kangaroo with honey-soy marinated wichitty grubs as a side-dish
Monk Jumping Over The Wall stew with quandongs and water lily root
Steamed Goanna gow gee/dumplings (餃子) with a native basil dressing
Steam BBQ emu bau/buns
Steamed spare crocodile ribs with Kakadu lime and Bush tomato sauce
 
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