Which kind of Mascot should Fleischer needs

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The Prologue
Fleischer Studios, founded by the visionary brothers Max Fleischer and Dave Fleischer in the early 20th century, reimagines animation through a groundbreaking fusion of mechanical engineering and artistic innovation. Renowned for their unique approach, the studio pioneers a new era in animation, seamlessly blending Dave's engineering prowess with Max's creative brilliance. This alternative studio becomes a hub for interdisciplinary collaboration, producing iconic characters and setting new standards for the industry. Fleischer Studios' legacy extends beyond cartoons, leaving an indelible mark at the intersection of art and technology, redefining the possibilities of animated storytelling.

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Fleischer's Early Life
In this alternative history, Max Fleischer's early life unfolds as a fascinating journey of artistic exploration and technological fascination. Born in 1883, he started as an errand boy at The Brooklyn Daily Eagle, where his innate talent quickly propelled him through various roles. From photographer to photoengraver, Max's trajectory culminated in becoming a staff cartoonist.

His editorial cartoons evolved from single-panel sketches to full strips like "Little Algie" and "S.K. Sposher, the Camera Fiend." These satirical works not only mirrored his life in Brownsville but also showcased his ironic worldview and fatalistic humor. A chance encounter with newspaper cartoonist and animator John Randolph Bray became a pivotal moment, opening the door to Max's future in animation.

On December 25, 1905, Max married his childhood sweetheart, Ethel (Essie) Goldstein. Guided by Bray's recommendation, he secured a role as a technical illustrator for the Electro-Light Engraving Company in Boston. His artistic journey continued with a move to Syracuse, New York, working as a catalog illustrator for the Crouse-Hinds Company. Returning to New York in 1910, Max assumed the role of art editor for Popular Science magazine under editor Waldemar Kaempffert.

This period marked Max Fleischer's formative years, where his marriage, diverse roles, and exposure to technological advancements paved the way for his groundbreaking contributions to the animation field.
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Between 1914 and 1917, Max and Dave Fleischer revolutionized animation with their invention, the Rotoscope. Combining Max's artistic insight and Dave's technical expertise, they created a device allowing animators to trace live-action film frames, bringing unprecedented lifelike movement to animated characters. This breakthrough at Fleshier Studios not only elevated animation quality but also set a new standard for storytelling realism. The Rotoscope's impact endured, shaping the course of animation history and inspiring future generations of animators.
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The Era of Out of the Inkwell
In the early 20th century, Max Fleischer, spurred by his invention of the Rotoscope, birthed the iconic character Koko the Clown. Filming his brother Dave in a clown costume, they meticulously traced over the footage, resulting in Koko's lifelike animation. The character, reminiscent of The Yama Yama Man, evolved from Dave's clown costume and German circus clown aesthetics. Max's realistic sample films led to a collaboration with John R. Bray Studios, spawning "Out of the Inkwell" in 1918. The series, blending live-action and animation, gained popularity, prompting the Fleischer brothers to establish Out of the Inkwell Films in 1921. Renamed Ko-Ko in 1924 by animator Dick Huemer, the series thrived with a distinctive style and the introduction of Ko-Ko's companion, Fitz.
If they are going "Mickey Mouse-ish", it would have to be Bimbo the dog. Which might be a little too Mickey Mouse-ish.

If they want something distinctive, I would suggest either Betty Boop or Popeye.
I like the way this is shaping up, but maybe consider changing things up in the 30s. Aside from the commonplace decision to make more feature films, I would consider using Betty Boop as a hotspot for more comic strip adaptations than just Popeye, The Little King, and Henry. Just a suggestion.
Cool! Why not go for a more unique, original and different mascot? Maybe a superhero or even a Astro Boy-like character?
Here's a simplified table chart of Out of the Inkwell shorts from 1919 to 1929:

| Year | Title | Notes |
| 1919 | The Tantalizing Fly | |
| 1920 | Modeling | First Out of the Inkwell cartoon |
| 1921 | The Ouija Board | |
| 1922 | The Haunted Hotel | |
| 1923 | The Runaway | |
| 1924 | Koko's Earth Control | |
| 1925 | The Clown's Little Brother | Introduction of Fitz the Dog |
| 1926 | The Show | |
| 1927 | Koko's Crib | |
| 1928 | The Barnyard Brawl | |
| 1929 | Finding His Voice | Introduction of synchronized sound |

I know there's a lot more shorts out there but I just want to finish this and get to the more interesting parts of the story
Cool! Why not go for a more unique, original and different mascot? Maybe a superhero or even a Astro Boy-like character?
I mean, Fleischer Studios did adapt Superman, and you can trace Astro Boy's design back to Betty Boop. The problem is, superheroes didn't become popular until the late 30s, and Astro Boy wasn't even a thing until after WW2.
Between 1919 and 1929, Fleischer Studios underwent significant developments. Here's a concise history of the studio during that period:

- 1919: Max Fleischer and his brother Dave founded Fleischer Studios. They introduced their first series, "Out of the Inkwell," featuring Koko the Clown and interactive animated characters emerging from a live-action inkwell.

- 1921: The Fleischer brothers pioneered the use of the rotoscope, an animation device that allowed animators to trace over live-action footage, achieving more realistic movements.

- 1923: "The Clown's Little Brother" was released, marking the introduction of Fitz the Dog, a character that would become a staple in future cartoons.

- 1926: Fleischer Studios became known for their innovation in sound synchronization, incorporating synchronized music and sound effects into their cartoons. "The Show" was a notable example of this advancement.

- 1927: The studio continued to experiment with technology, and Koko the Clown starred in "Koko's Crib," featuring innovative animation techniques.

- 1928: "The Barnyard Brawl" showcased Fleischer's ability to create chaotic and dynamic scenes, making it a memorable entry in their filmography.

- 1929: Fleischer Studios made a significant leap with "Finding His Voice," introducing synchronized sound to their cartoons. This marked a pivotal moment in animation history.

During this decade, Fleischer Studios established itself as a leading animation studio, known for its creativity, technological advancements, and memorable characters like Koko and Fitz. The introduction of synchronized sound in 1929 laid the foundation for future developments in the animation industry.
New Stars and Age of the Inkwell series
In this alternative history of Fleischer Studios from 1929 to 1933, a vibrant tale unfolds, shaped by the unexpected rise of Betty Boop and the shifting fortunes of Bimbo. Initially positioned as the potential "Mickey Mouse" counterpart for Fleischer Studios, Bimbo's trajectory takes an unforeseen turn as Betty Boop emerges as the charismatic star, fundamentally altering the studio's course.

Bimbo, introduced in 1929, embodied the mischievous charm typical of animated mascots of the era. Fleischer Studios, aspiring to create their own cultural phenomenon akin to Mickey Mouse, initially cast Bimbo as the central character. However, the creative landscape shifted dramatically when Betty Boop, initially portrayed as a canine character in "Dizzy Dishes" (1930), underwent a transformative evolution.

Betty's metamorphosis from a canine character to a vivacious, human-like figure marked a pivotal moment in Fleischer's alternative history. With her signature boop-oop-a-doop catchphrase and the enchanting vocals of Mae Questel, Betty Boop swiftly captured the audience's hearts. Her character embodied a spirit of liberation and carefree exuberance, resonating with the evolving societal ethos of the early 1930s.

As Betty Boop took center stage, Bimbo found himself demoted to a secondary role. The duo still collaborated in a series of animated adventures, but the spotlight had decidedly shifted. Bimbo's last starring short, "Bimbo's Initiation" (1931), marked a transition in the character's prominence.

Betty Boop's star ascended rapidly, defining the alternative history of Fleischer Studios between 1932 and 1934. She became the studio's biggest star, headlining a series of acclaimed cartoons that showcased Fleischer Studios' prowess in blending music, animation, and humor. Notable titles include "Minnie the Moocher" (1932), "The Old Man of the Mountain" (1933), "Snow-White" (1933), and "Red Hot Mamma" (1934).

However, Betty Boop's success encountered a significant hurdle with the implementation of the Hays Code in 1934. The Code sought to regulate content in the film industry, particularly targeting perceived immorality and risqué elements. Betty, known for her flirtatious and suggestive persona, bore the brunt of these restrictions. Her character underwent significant alterations to comply with the new regulations, shifting towards a more conservative representation.

As Betty Boop's stardom faced challenges under the Hays Code, Max Fleischer was already planning the studio's next major star. Aware of the shifting landscape and anticipating the need for a fresh icon, Fleischer Studios began developing a character that would become the next luminary in their animated universe.
Cool! I finally thought of some cool mascots ITTL. They could be these two characters:
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Basically, Antonball/Antonblast, but about 80-90 years earlier.