Flattops and Flyboys: The Carrier War in the Pacific 1942-44

Of course they do: the Kuznetsov blows enough smoke to shade the sun and make worlwide temperature drop (as did the Pinatubo in 1991)

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Is that Mount Pinatubo, or a distance shot of the Kuznetsov on its South China Sea cruise?
 
In defense of the Kutnetsov, she may have just lit her engines off after being down for some time or the atmospherics may be such that the exhaust from her stacks isn't rising as much as billowing out.
 
It really is fascinating to see all the different things major navies tried in determining how best to keep smoke off the flight deck.
 
The Kutnetsov is, to be honest, a piece of junk. It never goes anywhere without an oceangoing tug in the neighborhood.
 
It's easier perhaps to understand why it smokes so much on the outside when you look at the inside - and contrast it with its sister ship, the Liaoning - which China purchased and thoroughly refurbished.

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no problem, the pictures in particular were very instructive

I just figured we might as well set up a smoking lounge while we wait for the next update.

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"Captain, I'm afraid our missile detonated just short."
"So I see...Damn. I had no idea they could fire off such a big chaff screen."
"No, sir. I think the Kuznetsov just lit up two more boilers."
 
It's easier perhaps to understand why it smokes so much on the outside when you look at the inside - and contrast it with its sister ship, the Liaoning - which China purchased and thoroughly refurbished.

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WTH? Are his hands cold or something? Thats bloody awful - no wonder she smokes more than Hurricane Higgins (British Snooker player - old joke)
 
I just figured we might as well set up a smoking lounge while we wait for the next update.

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"Captain, I'm afraid our missile detonated just short."
"So I see...Damn. I had no idea they could fire off such a big chaff screen."
"No, sir. I think the Kuznetsov just lit up two more boilers."
Bloomin Heck! If I saw that out in the bay I'd be sending for the fire boat. How in the name of God do they manage to actually operate aircraft in that state?
 
Couldn't be further from the truth, but the MSM propaganda has a story to sell.... I recall seeing the example of one of those new super duper american littoral ships or whatever they are called smoking just like Kuznestov.
https://coronadotimes.com/news/2016/02/19/fire-on-navy-ship-in-bay/

Well, from what I've heard from Calbear's comments, the Littoral combat ships are worse than the Alaska class. And i'd have to agree.

So, to say that the Kuznetzov performs as well as pieces of junk doesn't really complement the former.
 
Well, from what I've heard from Calbear's comments, the Littoral combat ships are worse than the Alaska class. And i'd have to agree.

So, to say that the Kuznetzov performs as well as pieces of junk doesn't really complement the former.

It's different kind of fiasco than the Kuznetsov - a procurement fiasco, one which the Navy is smart enough to try to kill. Congress, of course, keeps bringing it back to life, because, well, jobs. Whereas the Kuznetsov is a "my navy is falling apart around me" fiasco, since it happens to be the flagship of the Russian Navy.

No number of ill-conceived DoD weapon systems can make the Kuznetsov look like anything other than floating disaster that deserves to be in the breaker's yard.
 
Couldn't be further from the truth, but the MSM propaganda has a story to sell.... I recall seeing the example of one of those new super duper american littoral ships or whatever they are called smoking just like Kuznestov.
https://coronadotimes.com/news/2016/02/19/fire-on-navy-ship-in-bay/

The Freedom has been caught doing an imitation of 1950 Pittsburgh once, after nine months of being idle. Which is bad.

The Kuznetsov does this pretty much every day it's at sea. Which probably requires all of Belgium's carbon offsets.
 
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