Flag Thread V

[ToxicStorm22]

"and before this battle was over, even a god-king can bleed" - Leonidas, 300

The flag of the Human Union of Earth and Narmer's Four Stars (usually shortened to the Four Stars) . the black and white section evokes the flag of the Narmerian Imperium, Narmer's head represents him as the chief deity of the Four Stars, and the four sun astronomical symbols represent the Sun, Alpha Centauri A/B, and Proxima Centauri. The green represents the lushness of Earth.

Spoiler: The End of History

The Narmerian Imperium's control of the Milky Way was seen by both the humans and gorothi as something that could never be broken. After facing the stellarborne and securing victory, many took for granted the stability that emerged afterwards. In 2631, however, Narmer VII died and the Imperium began to break apart. The strengthening of some of the slave species, as well as worsening relations between the humans and gorothi, meant that when Narmer VII died the tensions erupted into open warfare across the Milky Way. One group of humans managed to take possession of a few of the remaining hyper weapons left over from the stellarborne war, and with them in possession took over the Solar and Alpha Centauri systems. Quickly creating a theocratic dictatorship based around the worship of Narmer, they would use their hyper weapons in order to discourage any group from trying to take the systems, as they could destroy the invaders home worlds in return. The Four Stars is a sore subject for humans across the galaxy, as while 20 billion humans live within the system, the rest of humanity is refused access to Earth. This has led to the states nickname across the galaxy becoming "Earth's prison"

The flag of the Alarian Imperium is orange to symbolize the battle over Alaria that was the first major victory against the stellarborne. The yellow star represents Alaria being founded by the Terran Refugees, while the white star represents Alaria having been the capital world of the Narmerian Imperium. The black shield represents the defense of their culture and citizens against the new unstable galaxy.

Spoiler: The Remnants of Hope

The Alarian Imperium is the largest single state in the Milky Way as of the 2700s, controlling approximately 12% of the total galactic area. Ruled by Narmer VIII, the Alarian Imperium changed its name and flag after Earth and Goroth were lost to extremists from each species. The Alarian Imperium, instead of trying to reclaim their former territory, chose to focus on defending what remained under their control. Its not known whether the Imperium will remain under human control, as certain Gorothi politicians have experienced a surge in popularity within both species that reside in the new Imperium.

"The Imperium collapsed and our reborn Earth fell under control of those who only want to parade it as a trophy. Humanity once stood as the rulers of the galaxy, now we are just like all the other species, warring for the remnants and hoping peace will eventually form once again" - Unknown

 

[DixieLandDelight]

This is the flag of the Confederated States of America(Not descended from OTL CSA) In a world where the French did more colonization in the Louisiana Territory then OTL, but they revolted and joined the Confederacy in the 1810s(not sure of official timeline of this yet) due to high taxes and instability caused by the Napoleonic Wars. As well as a fundamentalist movement leading to independence from Britain for the Anglo colonies instead of a more enlightenment style movement. As well as the integration of the 5 civilized tribes as constituent states rather then the policy of removal. The 5 stars represent these tribes, the flure di lis representing the French territories, the 8 stripes representing the Union Jack and the 8 British colonies, and the cross representing Christianity and the unity of the nation behind it. Based on the flag of Acadania and I apologize for the poor quality

 

[DixieLandDelight]

The first is literally an old Japanese Postal Service Flag from 1871

Japanese Postal Flags

You don’t remember the Mailman’s Coup of 1951?

 

[ToxicStorm22]

A continuation of my Narmerian Imperium collection

The flag of the Northern Interstellar Junta. Red stands for the countless lost during the stellarborne war, the blue represents perseverance, the three diamonds represent the three states that joined to form the NIJ, and the black and white four-pointed star represents the NIJ claim to be the true successor to the Narmerian Imperium. This is one of my favorite flags so I hope you like it.

Spoiler: A Remnant of the Past

While the Narmerian Imperium controlled the entire galaxy after the stellarborne war, in reality the northern half continued to struggle into the 2600s, over 200 years after the announcement of victory. When the Imperium collapsed in 2631, three different states were created out of one of the former northern sectors. A group of military officers from each state met, in response to the chaos of so many new states forming so quickly across the galaxy, and were able to come to a compromise in how to unite their three respective states. Once the Northern Interstellar Junta had been founded, the ruling general renamed himself General Narmer VIII, thereby sharing the name of the ruler of the Alarian Imperium, and thus claiming to be the true successors to the former Imperium. Controlling around 8% of the galaxy, the NIJ is arguably the biggest threat to the Alarian Imperium, despite them existing in opposite halves of the Milky Way. The NIJ seeks to one day reunite the galaxy under their banner, but has focuses on Alaria first, viewing the want from various states to claim Earth as an inability to accept that humanity has changed drastically since their escape in the 2070s. Their disliking of alien species however has made them more enemies than friends, so any victories are substantially more costly than other states that accept aliens within their ranks.

The Human Peace flag is an attempt by several organizations across the galaxy to prevent a war between the various human led states. The white represents peace, the red pall represents the blood of humans, the yellow star and blue circle represent the Sun and Earth as having been where all of humanities ancestors evolved from, and the white star represents the hope that humanity will one day realize that they are more powerful united than divided. Obviously the four-pointed star has become a symbol used by humans across the galaxy due to it being used on the Terran Refugees and Narmerian Imperium flags.

Spoiler: Yet Another Galactic War

By the end of the 2780s, the various states, both humans and aliens, had been building up power and beginning preparations for war. The Alarian Imperium and the Northern Interstellar Junta had plans to meet at the core, while the Four Stars had been focused on turning their two systems into an impenetrable fortress. All across the galaxy various alien states had plans to annex or completely destroy their various neighbors, while others created ships to try and escape the galaxy itself. The Galactic War for Dominance would kick off when an NIJ ship was fired upon by Gorothi ships of the Goroth Empire (The original borders of the Gorothi before being subsumed into the Milky Way Cooperative Union in 2275). This would cause a chain reaction that would ripple across the galaxy, igniting every major tension, and plunging the entire Milky Way into war. While ark ships fled from multiple species worlds, the Alarians and NIJ would meet in battle near the core. The galactic borders would shift rapidly for decades, and the various capital worlds would usually face invasion multiple times per Earth year. But who would come out on top? Well that will be revealed at another time.

I'm sorry there haven't been any alien states flags. I wanted to focus on humanity and also I just can't seem to imagine an alien flag that satisfies me. Various alien races are involved as stated above, but their development would have been very stifled by the Imperium, so while they have grown in power and created their own states, its not likely any outside of the humans or gorothi could conceivably unite the galaxy again, as they just don't have the dispersal range the other two do. If anyone cares to give me ideas on how they want this to end feel free to message me.

 

[PolishMagnet]

New flag challenge is up!

FLAG CHALLENGE #281: Anniversary

Create a flag marking the 100th or more anniversary of a country's founding (like the Canada 150 flag)

If the flag is for a fictional country (or alternate country), submit both the country's flag AND the anniversary flag.

Submissions Open: Now
Submissions Close: 1:50:49 pm GMT | Tuesday, January 24, 2023

 

[EmperorSimeon]

Flag of the Hellenic trade company from a reality where Rhomania created a colonial monopoly in the Pacific.

 

[Ṭahmāsp Mirzā]

Flag of the Republic of All Turks (1993-1997)
By Turkey to 2000.

Flag of the Republic of All Turks (1993-1997)
By Turkey to 2000.

The History

The dissolution of the Soviet Union set the stage for an unprecedented rise in Pan-Turkic Nationalism, and the following decades saw a concentrated push to federate the Turkic-Speaking states into a single entity. This was, for all intents and purposes, an attempt to replicate a similar success seen by the All-Arab State during the 1970s, though that experiment ultimately ended in faliure due to a lack of substantiative leadership.

However, at the end of the Cold War, it was clear who would lead the Turkic-speaking world--the Turkish Republic. Turkey's close ally, Azerbaijan, quickly joined the confederation in 1993. Following a disputed referendum, Khwarezm joined a year later. The new state was called the Republic of All Turks, reflecting the ambition that one day, all Turkic-speaking States would join. Mawarranahr, another Central Asian country, sought membership in 1995, but was not inducted due to a sudden internal coup d'etat.

However, the confederation, like the All-Arab State before it, faced problems of communication and supply. For one, Turkey was cut off from the majority of Azerbaijan by the Armenian-controlled Meghri corridor. Secondly, Khwarezm was locked behind the iron gates of Iran and Kazakhstan. Furthermore, the confederation was viewed with hostility by Iran, which was itself trying to unify with Tajikistan, another recently liberated Soviet Republic.

After Mawarranahr, Khwarezm's neighbour, failed to join the confederation in 1995, the Khwarezmians realized that they were surrounded by enemies of the confederation--Iran to the south, the new government of Mawarranahr (which had renamed itself to Uzebekistan) to the west and north, and finally Kazakhstan. They quickly left the confederation to improve relations with their neighbours, and later formed a strong partnership with Uzbekistan and Iran.

Turkey and Azerbaijan remained united for another two years, planning an attack on the Meghri corridor in order to united the bulk of the two countries. However, the attack went disastrously, and the resulting debacle saw Azerbaijan leave the confederation in 1997, leaving only Turkey, which kept the state's name until 2000. Ultimately, like the All-Arab State before it, the Republic of All Turks was a faliure, as it had failed to gain political momentum after 1994, and also failed to achieve it's miltary and political objectives of uniting the Turkic-speaking peoples under a single banner.

The Flag

Blue represents Central Asian Turkic-speaking peoples, as well as the sky, water, and the ancient Turkic Khagnate. Red represents Anatolian Turks and Azeris, and recognizes the valor of the Turkic peoples, along with their many historical victories in battle. White stands for peace and cooperation amongst the Turkic-speaking groups. The two white lines represent the first two Turkic Khagnates.

The symbol of the obverse is the emblem of the confederation-- a mix of the Crescent of Tengrism and the Crescent and star of Islam. It also represents a stylized diving falcon, a symbol of the Turkic peoples. On the reverse is a rendition of the (fictitious) symbol of the First Turkic Khagnate. This symbolism of the wolf was used heavily in the propaganda of the Republic of All Turks.

 

[PolishMagnet]

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Flag of the Republic of All Turks (1993-1997)

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Flag of the Republic of All Turks (1993-1997)

The History

The dissolution of the Soviet Union set the stage for an unprecedented rise in Pan-Turkic Nationalism, and the following decades saw a concentrated push to federate the Turkic-Speaking states into a single entity. This was, for all intents and purposes, an attempt to replicate a similar success seen by the All-Arab State during the 1970s, though that experiment ultimately ended in faliure due to a lack of substantiative leadership.

However, at the end of the Cold War, it was clear who would lead the Turkic-speaking world--the Turkish Republic. Turkey's close ally, Azerbaijan, quickly joined the confederation in 1993. Following a disputed referendum, Khwarezm joined a year later. The new state was called the Republic of All Turks, reflecting the ambition that one day, all Turkic-speaking States would join. Mawarranahr, another Central Asian country, sought membership in 1995, but was not inducted due to a sudden internal coup d'etat.

However, the confederation, like the All-Arab State before it, faced problems of communication and supply. For one, Turkey was cut off from the majority of Azerbaijan by the Armenian-controlled Lachin corridor. Secondly, Khwarezm was locked behind the iron gates of Iran and Kazakhstan. Furthermore, the confederation was viewed with hostility by Iran, which was itself trying to unify with Tajikistan, another recently liberated Soviet Republic.

After Mawarranahr, Khwarezm's neighbour, failed to join the confederation in 1995, the Khwarezmians realized that they were surrounded by enemies of the confederation--Iran to the south, the new government of Mawarranahr (which had renamed itself to Uzebekistan) to the west and north, and finally Kazakhstan. They quickly left the confederation to improve relations with their neighbours, and later formed a strong partnership with Uzbekistan and Iran.

Turkey and Azerbaijan remained united for another two years, planning an attack on the Lachin corridor in order to united the bulk of the two countries. However, the attack went disastrously, and the resulting debacle saw Azerbaijan leave the confederation in 1997, leaving only Turkey, which kept the state's name until 2000. Ultimately, like the All-Arab State before it, the Republic of All Turks was a faliure, as it had failed to gain political momentum after 1994, and also failed to achieve it's miltary and political objectives of uniting the Turkic-speaking peoples under a single banner.

The Flag

Blue represents Central Asian Turkic-speaking peoples, as well as the sky, water, and the ancient Turkic Khagnate. Red represents Anatolian Turks and Azeris, and recognizes the valor of the Turkic peoples, along with their many historical victories in battle. White stands for peace and cooperation amongst the Turkic-speaking groups. The two white lines represent the first two Turkic Khagnates.

The symbol of the obverse is the emblem of the confederation-- a mix of the Crescent of Tengrism and the Crescent and star of Islam. It also represents a stylized diving falcon, a symbol of the Turkic peoples. On the reverse is a rendition of the (fictitious) symbol of the First Turkic Khagnate. This symbolism of the wolf was used heavily in the propaganda of the Republic of All Turks.

While the wolf is definitely the more recognisable pan-turkic symbol, I love the quake logo-esque symbol. Lovely colours and pattern too!

 

[Born in the USSA]

Have a special celebratory flag for the centennial of my Antarctic Revolutionary Commonwealths!

The Centennial of the Antarctic Revolutionary Commonwealths

Behold! The centennial celebratory flag for the Antarctic Revolutionary Commonwealths in my Power Without Knowledge TL! A century into the first successful Cosmicist experiment has seen the rise of a new force within the Antarctic Cosmicist Party, the Maximalist Fraction, determined to complete the work of transitioning the Cosmicist International into a true world government, expanding the space colonies into self-sustaining territories, and finally shattering the exhausted remnants of the Arctic Council to the north. To the dismay of the Nihilist powers the flag itself is unsubtle about these ambitions, prominently featuring the octopus that serves as the symbol of both the Cosmintern and the Maximalists and blatantly displaying the Cosmicist model of the solar system, complete with an Earth all decked out in burgundy. The ARC motto lends the flag an extra edge of either hopeful promise or implied malice, depending on which alliance you happen to be subject to.

 

[ToxicStorm22]

Here is the conclusion of the Narmerian Imperium, hope you have enjoyed it.

The war banner of the Northern Interstellar Junta. The black and white stars represent the three constituent states and the hope that they can rebuild the old Imperium. The shields represent the military might and willingness to use force to accomplish the goal of restoring human rule.

Spoiler: War Never Changes

The beginning of what would be known as the Restoration War was what many had feared was inevitable. As Narmer VIII of the Alarian Imperium and General Narmer VIII of the Northern Interstellar Junta announced their declarations of war, both sides would rush to the core, hoping to use the immense amounts of resources there to gain an upper hand. Both sides would stalemate across the front, while also having to deal with forces from the Goroth Empire, leading to costly battles without clear achievements. All of this would change in a massive strategic mistake undertaken by the Alarian Imperium, the assault on the Solar System. Attempting to capture Earth and use it to sway the galactic human population, the arrival of Imperium vessels into the Solar System would cause the Four Stars to activate their hyper weapons, with one being sent to Alaria and the other Goroth, as the amount of gorothi citizens in the Alarian Imperium made the Four Stars believe that the Goroth Empire was involved. Not having enough time to appropriately counteract this movement, the Four Stars would activate the weapons, destroying Alaria and Goroth, leaving nothing but swirling fields of rock where once capital worlds stood. At the moment of their activation, NIJ forces arrived in the Solar System, attacking the surprised Imperium forces, and then securing Earth through strategic kinetic bombardment. As the hyper weapons were moved to avenge this, they were destroyed as they came out of FTL near the NIJ capital, as they had intelligence that the Imperium would try such an act. Intelligence had won them their biggest victory.

The flag of the Neo-Narmerian Imperium. The catfish is one of two symbols which represented Narmer's name, which was chosen to show that even though they sought to recreate the Imperium, they were still a different group. The black and white star represents the new government and the three stars represent the original three states union (pretty much the NIJ flag but with some adjustments).

Spoiler: History Repeats Itself

With the destruction of Alaria, the Alarian Imperium was fractured. Without central government, there were several factions that sought to claim power, leading to a devasting fracture that was exploited by the NIJ. Many systems switched allegiance to the NIJ, as it represented the best hope of stability, leading to many rival factions becoming isolated, and thus easier to destroy. Without any hope of a united front, the NIJ broke through the stalemate, and arrived in what used to be the Alarian system, which led to the nearly complete capitulation of remaining forces, eleven years after the start of the war. Meanwhile, without Goroth, many gorothi fled to the Northwestern region of the galaxy, leaving a drastically reduced population, which was quickly swept aside by the NIJ wave. Officially gaining control of 42% of the galaxy, the Neo-Narmerian Imperium would be established, with General Narmer VIII being declared the new Imperator, starting the Second Imperial Dynasty. While the Imperium would never control the whole galaxy, nor would any state again, it would lead to thousands of years of alternating stability, war, several successor imperiums, and would be an important part of humanities continued presence and power in the Milky Way. In every end, there is a new beginning.

And there it is. I hope you have enjoyed this collection. Hopefully I will have something else soon.

 

[Marc Pasquin]

Here is the conclusion of the Narmerian Imperium, hope you have enjoyed it.
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The war banner of the Northern Interstellar Junta. The black and white stars represent the three constituent states and the hope that they can rebuild the old Imperium. The shields represent the military might and willingness to use force to accomplish the goal of restoring human rule.

Spoiler: War Never Changes

The beginning of what would be known as the Restoration War was what many had feared was inevitable. As Narmer VIII of the Alarian Imperium and General Narmer VIII of the Northern Interstellar Junta announced their declarations of war, both sides would rush to the core, hoping to use the immense amounts of resources there to gain an upper hand. Both sides would stalemate across the front, while also having to deal with forces from the Goroth Empire, leading to costly battles without clear achievements. All of this would change in a massive strategic mistake undertaken by the Alarian Imperium, the assault on the Solar System. Attempting to capture Earth and use it to sway the galactic human population, the arrival of Imperium vessels into the Solar System would cause the Four Stars to activate their hyper weapons, with one being sent to Alaria and the other Goroth, as the amount of gorothi citizens in the Alarian Imperium made the Four Stars believe that the Goroth Empire was involved. Not having enough time to appropriately counteract this movement, the Four Stars would activate the weapons, destroying Alaria and Goroth, leaving nothing but swirling fields of rock where once capital worlds stood. At the moment of their activation, NIJ forces arrived in the Solar System, attacking the surprised Imperium forces, and then securing Earth through strategic kinetic bombardment. As the hyper weapons were moved to avenge this, they were destroyed as they came out of FTL near the NIJ capital, as they had intelligence that the Imperium would try such an act. Intelligence had won them their biggest victory.

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The flag of the Neo-Narmerian Imperium. The catfish is one of two symbols which represented Narmer's name, which was chosen to show that even though they sought to recreate the Imperium, they were still a different group. The black and white star represents the new government and the three stars represent the original three states union (pretty much the NIJ flag but with some adjustments).

Spoiler: History Repeats Itself

With the destruction of Alaria, the Alarian Imperium was fractured. Without central government, there were several factions that sought to claim power, leading to a devasting fracture that was exploited by the NIJ. Many systems switched allegiance to the NIJ, as it represented the best hope of stability, leading to many rival factions becoming isolated, and thus easier to destroy. Without any hope of a united front, the NIJ broke through the stalemate, and arrived in what used to be the Alarian system, which led to the nearly complete capitulation of remaining forces, eleven years after the start of the war. Meanwhile, without Goroth, many gorothi fled to the Northwestern region of the galaxy, leaving a drastically reduced population, which was quickly swept aside by the NIJ wave. Officially gaining control of 42% of the galaxy, the Neo-Narmerian Imperium would be established, with General Narmer VIII being declared the new Imperator, starting the Second Imperial Dynasty. While the Imperium would never control the whole galaxy, nor would any state again, it would lead to thousands of years of alternating stability, war, several successor imperiums, and would be an important part of humanities continued presence and power in the Milky Way. In every end, there is a new beginning.

And there it is. I hope you have enjoyed this collection. Hopefully I will have something else soon.

just a personal opinion but you might want to have all flags using the same ratio since they are all connected.

 

[ToxicStorm22]

just a personal opinion but you might want to have all flags using the same ratio since they are all connected.

The reason I did a long thin banner is to evoke the old medieval style. Would that style exist in space? Who knows but I like it

 

[Born in the USSA]

The reason I did a long thin banner is to evoke the old medieval style. Would that style exist in space? Who knows but I like it

All the better to be painted on the side of a ship

 

[Dune]

Have a special celebratory flag for the centennial of my Antarctic Revolutionary Commonwealths!

Excellent motto. Very inspiring.

 

[Born in the USSA]

Excellent motto. Very inspiring.

Thanks! Aside from being pithy it also neatly represents the Cosmicist conception of the historical process. A desire for Liberty gave birth to Liberalism from the corpse of Imperium, an urge for Equality created Socialism as a reaction to Liberalism, a fixation on Fraternity created Fascism to counter Socialism, and after everything stagnated in the Nihilist stage a yearning for Eternity* caused Cosmicism to crystallize. The combination of the motto and solar system handily display all the stages:

1. Volksgeist, the above collection of transitions, represented by the motto.
2. Zeitgeist, the initial revolutionary wave represented by the Cosmintern octopus and the bisected Cosmicist base flag.
3. Weltgeist, the World State, represented by the burgundy depiction of Earth.
4. Gestaltgeist, the interplanetary Cosmicist government, aspirationally represented by the other planets.

*As in "a human economy and society not destined to collapse in a mass death scenario within a century".

 

[Dune]

Thanks! Aside from being pithy it also neatly represents the Cosmicist conception of the historical process. A desire for Liberty gave birth to Liberalism from the corpse of Imperium, an urge for Equality created Socialism as a reaction to Liberalism, a fixation on Fraternity created Fascism to counter Socialism, and after everything stagnated in the Nihilist stage a yearning for Eternity* caused Cosmicism to crystallize. The combination of the motto and solar system handily display all the stages:

1. Volksgeist, the above collection of transitions, represented by the motto.
2. Zeitgeist, the initial revolutionary wave represented by the Cosmintern octopus and the bisected Cosmicist base flag.
3. Weltgeist, the World State, represented by the burgundy depiction of Earth.
4. Gestaltgeist, the interplanetary Cosmicist government, aspirationally represented by the other planets.

*As in "a human economy and society not destined to collapse in a mass death scenario within a century".

How would a Cosmisist react to the suggestion that their ideology is just socialism of a particularly apocalyptic/utilitarian variety? I would think such a reaction from other political philosophies would be inevitable, based on aesthetics alone.

 

[Born in the USSA]

How would a Cosmisist react to the suggestion that their ideology is just socialism of a particularly apocalyptic/utilitarian variety? I would think such a reaction from other political philosophies would be inevitable, based on aesthetics alone.

They'd tell you that you're obviously wrong. Their system is heavy on electoralism and their economy turns the idea of the Circular Economy into a blender mixing elements of Georgism, Freiwirtschaft, Syndicalism and state ownership of key industries. It's a bit postmodernist in its influences for orthodox socialism.

 

[Dune]

It's a bit postmodernist in its influences for orthodox socialism.

Indeed. Though I was talking about "socialism" in the more expansive sense.

 

[Born in the USSA]

Indeed. Though I was talking about "socialism" in the more expansive sense.

Well I suppose they'd see some commonality but the fact that they use a completely different structure for the social classes also creates further distance between the two.

 

[Aluma]

Flag of Silvestria

The Tupi-English Empire from South America in the timeline "The Adventures of the Average Joe" by @Viking25

Spoiler: Trust me it gets weirder

A nation born from a corporate rebellion against their neglectful romano-british overlords resulting in country dominated by the private interests of it's food industry and religious institutions which are one and the same

With their luck-worshipping version of Christianity determining their very socioeconomic system under a technocratic dictatorship led by a Caligula-esque self-styled Emperor who's hellbent on uplifting their country into a space civilisation through any means necessary, be it cultural hegemony through control over the world's food supplies or creating living space stations via the cybernetic assimilation of the astronauts into their ships

A weird, friendly yet very creepy society that is still both culturally and ethnically native american despite being anglophone with a supposingly immortal monarch who cares more about culinary than ruling and whose people take deep pride in being the

"One Nation under Fortuna"