Flag Thread V

Indicus

Indicus

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The Goan Revolution was successful in establishing a new Goan Republic separate from its Portuguese masters in 1830, and this state needed a new flag. Many different flags were proposed but refused - despite the Mestiço officers who revolted being inspired by the French Revolution, French-style tricolours were deemed atheistic by the Catholic Brahmin priests who made an important part of the new state. After much discussion, this flag was a cross, representing Christianity, but this cross was to have three colours as if to imply a French-style tricolour. Blue, considered a Catholic colour in Portuguese heraldry, was prominent. The symbols of the municipality of Velha Goa - a mural crown covered with armillary spheres and crosses, the Wheel of Saint Catherine, and a castle - defaced the new flag. It was an overtly Christian and Catholic flag, in a state in which only Christians were eligible to vote, and its overt European symbolism made it clear that it viewed itself as an outpost of Christian civilization in India, a land of "pagan" and "Moorish" barbarity.

In the coming decades, to the Hindus who made up a large minority of Goa's population, this flag represented their subjugation by the state. It represented that they were nothing more than subjects of a state which claimed to uphold ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity. As the Religious Liberty Association advocating Hindu emancipation gained steam in the 1870s and 1880s, unifying Hindu Brahmins and Kshatriyas in the name of religious equality while also separating itself from the strong Maharashtrian identity which so often sunk previous emancipationist movements. After much difficulties, in 1888 it finally won religious equality under the law, as the Christian supremacist provisions of the Constitutional Code were removed. But the overtly Christian Goan flag became a symbol of the law's former anti-Hindu exclusivism, and in 1891 it was replaced with a new one. This new flag was a French-style tricolour, to imply the ideals of equality of the French Revolution would be truly followed. The Wheel of Saint Catherine remained on the flag, though now it was redefined - according to the flag law, it was simply a "wheel of justice". To Catholics this could still refer to Saint Catherine's martyrdom, but to Hindus this "justice" could mean the Hindu concept of dharma, often represented by a wheel. Above it was a mural crown, representing republican authority. It was a flag, the new government hoped, that could represent Hindu and Catholic alike equal under the law. This flag has become an important part of Goan nationalism, so often nebulous and difficult to define in contrast to the similar cultures of surrounding Maharashtra. And thus it has succeeded.
 
Born in the USSA

Born in the USSA

Some Damn Thing in the Balkans: Danuba Finvenkismo

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Inspired by the flag and party system I made for my Georgist China concept I decided to dust off another old idea of mine: if Kaiserreich is a timeline where the Entente loses the Great War and Red Flood is a timeline where Germany loses the Weltkrieg, I was wondering what a timeline would look like where the World War I was never fought at all, but tensions are rising by the mid-thirties as in both of those games. In the vein of both games I wanted to use it as an exercise to dust off some exotic prewar ideologies that never took off in the twentieth century, namely Georgism adopted by progressive reformers in the US and UK, Nihilism spreading out of the fracturing Russian Empire, and in this specific example political Esperantism in the former Austria-Hungary.

The major POD is that the attempt to assassinate Franz Ferdinand ends in failure, butterflying away World War I. Though saber rattling continues through the Tense Twenties, there is no similar inciting incident in the aftermath and the Archduke, though shaken by the attempt on his life, doubles down on his plans to reform the Empire to avoid the coming fractures along ethnic lines. The reforms fell into two categories OTL, the 1906 "Greater Austria" plan to federalize the nation into a collection of distinct ethnic states and the 1910 "trialism" plan to create a Croatian monarchy equal to those of Austria and Hungary, and Franz Ferdinand supported both proposals, hence the red/green/blue of the bottom stripe (representing Austria, Hungary and Croatia respectively, with the red top stripe common between all the subnational flags.

This adoption of the trialist model was merely the start of the Archduke's reforms as he attempted to push through the federalization of the Empire, provoking the ire of Hungary who stood to lose the most authority in the plan, as it stood in direct contrast with their attempts at Magyarization. In the aftermath of the Tense Twenties world attention was firmly on the former Russian Empire as it was dramatically shattered by the resurgence of the anarchist Nihilist movement. With the German Empire bogged down in the east and the Archduke now Emperor, the Hungarians decided to take the opportunity to strike out on their own, inaugurating the Austrian Civil War. Although the conflict would see Black Guard anarchists and ethnic nationalists attempt to pull away from the nation, the government would find support from citizens afraid of the realities of true ethnic separatism and committed to the effort at reform.

Of all the groups in support of the Austrian government, the most influential would be Esperantists who had looked at the Tense Twenties and seen a continent on the slow build up to war. With a complex intermixing of national and ethnic identities and an Emperor truly committed to balancing these groups it seemed the perfect opportunity to inaugurate the first stages of Finvenkismo, the final victory of Esperanto as an internationalist language. Although Esperanto was at its core a pacifist and antinationalist movement, it had taken a more militant tenor in the wake of Zamenhof's death and the resurging wild nationalism and ethnic strife that followed the collapse of the Tsarist yoke. Federal victory over the disorganized Nationalist and Nihilist factions would see the imposition of the Greater Austrian patchwork of states and ethnic enclaves, and the invaluable support of the Finvenkists would pay off with the adoption of the language as the official administrative language of the reorganized Federal Empire of Danubia.
 
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Lyr3866

A flag for cape republic that i made which encompass western cape and northern cape provinces,portions of the eastern cape province and portions of the free state province (the border being the city of bloemfontain).
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Some Damn Thing in the Balkans: Free Land, Free Trade, Free Men!

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Have a flag for international Georgism! It's pretty straightforward, with Georgist green serving as the middle ground between liberal yellow and socialist red. A cat is a common metaphor in the ideology and is made up of a stylized S, T and M, to represent the Single Tax Movement. In a world with no Great War, efforts to create an international forum for settling disputes flounder for decades and as the Tense Twenties ratchet up international strife transnational partisan organizations fill some of the void, from the increasingly Finvenkist Universal Esperanto Association to the disorganized Black Guards* to the floundering Second International. With the expansion of international Nihilism eating into the support for socialism among the deprived classes in more repressive nations, the remains of the socialist parties in the rest of the world have found themselves forced into a marriage of convenience with the liberal parties under the umbrella of the International Union, also known as the Green International. Founded in 1925 by representatives of the American and Chinese Nationalist** parties and the Liberal parties of Japan*** and the United Kingdom, the path to the creation of the International began over a decade earlier with Teddy Roosevelt's third turn in the White House.

Unsatisfied with his hand-picked successor and unsuccessful at getting the Republican nomination, Roosevelt was able to use his personal charisma to forge the new Nationalist party and ride it to victory in 1912, giving the nation its first third-party president. With his party calling to mind the defunct Nationalist Clubs and his own New Nationalism platform, without a European war Roosevelt was able to spend his political capital domestically to pursue his anti-trust and conservation priorities, with the party's turn to Georgism luring away Populist partisans in the Democratic Party eager for land reform. The party would survive his death, often collaborating with a Socialist Party never bled dry by the Great War but not strong enough to become the dominant partner in the alliance. With a smaller boom throughout the Tense Twenties brought about by a consistent policy of neutrality selling to everyone, the country still experiences an economic shock born out of the ripples of the Russian collapse, with President Seabury offering citizen's dividends as part of his proposed reforms, to the consternation of the conservative old guard in command of the Republican and Democratic parties.

*The Black Guards won't get a post because the Nihilist flags are just a collection of black rectangles of different dimensions with occasional skulls slapped on. The Germans bogged down in Eastern Europe find it all incredibly irritating.
**This TL would feature an alternate version of the China from my earlier Yellow Peril concept, with the country on the more extreme end of world Georgism but still firmly connected with the other three major Georgist nations.
***With their victory in the Russo-Japanese war intact but no humiliation at Versailles the Japanese Empire has a much stronger civilian government, though the military is still a powerful institution in the country. Being allied with the Chinese has been beneficial to both nations, with Japanese expansion aimed firmly at the French and German possessions in Southeast Asia instead.
 
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Some Damn Thing in the Balkans: Les Gilets Jaunes

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Here's a special bonus flag that occurred to me while I was typing up the lore for the last one. In the scenario I've presented with socialism subservient to either Nihilism or Georgism depending on where in the world you are, I thought it would be amusing to have a single orthodox socialist country. I decided to lean harder into the "unorthodox ideology" angle and the absolute hash of political colors in this scenario and behold! A yellow socialist French Commune! Without a Great War victory revanchism continued to grow in the ranks of the military and the halls of government, with the Tense Twenties marked by a persistent international fear of a war between Germany and France. Although the situation would continue to simmer uneasily the ultimate blow to the regime would come about as a result of the "Cold Snap", the economic shock of the Russian collapse. With revolutionary Marxism discredited by a poor early showing in the face of the Black Guards and a French populace in fear of similar groups operating in the Metropole a path to power was suddenly clear for the French Worker's Party, which had been quietly overtaken by yellow socialists in the wake of movement founder Pierre Biétry's death. With a corporatist structure bringing patriotic labor unions and nationalist businesses together for the good of the French state and citizenry, the Commune of France uses a modified version of the flag of the Second French Republic.
 

ToxicStorm22

The flag of the Mojave Wasteland Defense Alliance following the victory of the Courier/Yes Man. The envelope represents the courier who put all the pieces into play for the ultimate push to drive out the NCR and Legion (something suggested by the settlements to be added), the 2282 represents the year of the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, and the stars represent the constellation scorpius, representing the willingness of the settlements to protect themselves.
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Any critique is welcomed and appreciated
(the stars look a mess because I eyeballed them on paint 3d, so if anyone wants them straightened, be my guest)
 
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Some Damn Thing in the Balkans: Kulturkampf

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Here's what will probably be my last flag in this series barring some sort of sudden flash of inspiration lol. I was turning over in my head what sort of interesting evolution to bog standard imperial conservatism I could use in this scenario, and I thought it would be interesting to do a combination of Social Credit and the Arts and Crafts movement, given that those two currents ended up blending in OTL. The only rub is that C.H. Douglas developed it as a direct result of World War I and it was always more popular in the Anglosphere. I've given it some thought and I think I can make it work, hence this flag. I used orange and black as traditional colors of Christian Democracy, included the two K's as a nod to the British Social Credit Party and added a retouched cornflower symbol lifted from a conservative Estonian political party, since the cornflower was a historic symbol of Germany in the nineteenth century. The central triangle shape is meant to suggest the modern logo of the German Center Party, and with the K's suggests that the party is both "center" and also on a firm foundation.

In the decades leading up to the Tense Twenties Zentrum had made it their mission to pivot in the new century from a Catholic identity party to one more appealing to the German populace regardless of denomination or level of devotion. As part of this strategy, the party had become increasingly vocal in defense of the nation and its military, cheering their preparedness in the face of French provocations. And then came the Cold Snap- with France spiraling into yellow socialism the nation had to turn its gaze to the charnel house formerly known as the Russian Empire. An ancient nation cast down and shattered right on their border, it was any military planner's nightmare. The early involvement of the Marxists in the struggle saw Zentrum denouncing similar provocateurs in the homeland, but what would follow would be worse, if that was even possible. After the Nihilists joined the fray, toppling the red socialists, the Imperial German Army would find itself deployed in the east. But it would not be alone.

While the United Kingdom had no love lost with the German Empire, they could fully appreciate the danger of a black wave of Nihilism escaping the former Rodina, especially with German-allied Austria in the midst of its own civil war, allowing "civilian volunteers" flying "retired aircraft" to provide additional air support to the Heer. These volunteers would socialize with their German counterparts in off hours, and a natural rapport and flow of ideas would develop, the most influential of which would be C.H. Douglas's Social Credit theory. Built on earlier research conducted on businesses in France and Britain during the Tense Twenties, for a variety of reasons Douglas would find his ideas confined to the margins at home, from legitimate critiques of his math to a faddish embrace of Georgism as the path to economic reform in the Britain. His Social Credit theory would find new life after his works were translated into German, with its success there ironically putting its star on the rise elsewhere as well.

With his emphasis on culture as a factor of production, it seemed a natural fit for Zentrum to take to his ideas, with the party swelling in the wake of the Nihilist anti-religious terror to the east and growing distress among the people as the economy began to turn. With Sozialkredit the party had an economic answer to meet the moment, one that did not mean sacrificing the nation's heritage on the altar of whatever color of socialism or form of green-tinged internationalism might be brewing. The focus on authentically Germanic culture would see the Arts and Crafts romantics take up the banner, giving the nation a perfect harmony between form and function moving forward into the uncertain world as Zentrum found itself in the majority for the first time.
 
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