Flag Thread IV

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Red Arturoist, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    Another flag from Shadowrun
    Confederation of American States, born in 2034 after the secession from UCAS, belives itself as the true USA heir.
    I used the basic design, but taking away the red strips in the white part, but leaving the design pretty untouched.
     
  2. Dorozhand She/They

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    República de Florida

    In 1800, Rafael Riego was impressed into the army to fight anti-colonial movements in the Americas. That same year, Fernando Prince of Asturias and a cadre of reactionary officers and politicians, united with an angry populace in opposition to the alliance with Revolutionary France, launched a coup against the liberal Carlos IV. After a civil war, Fernando VII entered Madrid in 1804, and when in 1806 the last liberal strongholds on the Mediterranean coast were taken Carlos IV went into exile to Parma, where he would stay until his restoration with the fall of Napoleon. Fernando VII was killed during the Peninsular War that followed his seizure of power and subsequent declaration of war on France.

    During the civil war, Spanish forces throughout the Americas received conflicting messages from the rival governments who both attempted to recall them to fight the war at home. Riego, by this time an officer stationed in Florida, received one such letter from Fernando's government, and fearing execution whether he returned to Spain or disobeyed and remained in San Agustín, he deserted his command along with several other liberal officers he had connections with. His faithful band of rebels, all now wanted out-laws, hid in the forests and stayed with a group of Yatsiminoli for several years.

    When news reached them that Fernando VII had been killed and Spain was under French occupation, they came out of hiding. Carlos IV was now the sole Bourbon monarch of a conquered Spain, and officers around the world pledged their loyalty to him in the war against the French.

    However, when the war was over and Carlos IV was returned to the throne, he reinstated the deeply unpopular Manuel de Godoy, and refused to accept the Cortes of Cádiz, saying that the Cortes had not been assembled in the traditional caste-based composition. As promised, a new Cortes was held in 1816 in the customary manner, but the resulting constitution pleased almost no-one. It was both too reactionary, providing the king with no checks on power and declaring catholicism the sole and unique religion of the country, yet it was also too liberal, allowing extensive royal powers over the church and the right to seize church assets for the need of the country.

    The seizure of church property, with the motive to restore Spain's shattered finances, sent roars of anger across the empire, and despite that it had been done before, this time the anger grew until radical revolutionaries had sprung up in places they hadn't been before, led by unlikely people. In Mexico, catholic priests had been instrumental in leading the first insurrections, and in Florida, missionary priests led similar acts of protest inspired by them. Riego and his revolutionaries, now joined by angry crowds, seized the fortifications at San Agustín in 1818 with the help of a mutiny among the black soldiers at Fort Mose, forming a new republican government before launching expeditions to take control of the rest of the territory. During this time, a tricolor of orange, white, and red began to be used as a rebel symbol, its design taking inspiration from the French Revolutionary tricolor and from the abundance of sweet oranges and other citrus fruits in the richly verdant country.

    With the colonial administrations falling apart, Carlos IV agreed to a deal with the rebels in Florida, proposed by Godoy, in an effort to retain at any cost the invaluable tax revenues of the remaining colonies as a new civil war threatened to break out over the Cortes of 1816. The rebels were given control over the territory, with the right to hold a Cortes in any form they chose in Florida, and that the territory should be formed into a kingdom under the rule of the Bourbon house. After being briefly made Prime Minister, Riego stepped down from this position to retire after one year, as the newly enthroned Carlos V held very cold feelings towards him, and over the next few years the king enacted strict controls over Florida, forcing free black subjects and indigenous peoples into slavery in order to harvest cotton in the north and to prevent rebellions, and ordering the formation of a new Cortes of Florida in the traditional manner of the Spanish Cortes, while such an arrangement was very difficult and negotiations dragged on.

    Opposing the expansion of chattel slavery were the same clergy that had supported independence, and the missions rose up once again behind Riego, who was convinced to return to politics. With the final expulsion of the Spanish from the country, he was proclaimed King of Florida by a new Cortes dominated by a monarchist faction. A famous painting depicts this event, Riego wearing a bicorne adorned with a cockade of orange, white, and red, solidifying the tricolor as a widely-recognized national symbol, while the coat of arms was designed by Riego himself, and the broken shackle with sun added following the formation of the Third Republic.

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  3. HowAboutThisForAName Manservant to Melon the Mischievous Mog

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    So, picking a flag for a United Kingdom-in-Exile in Kenya that's gone native after a number of decades and is choosing a new flag. I've got a couple of variations on the same design; which do you all like?

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  4. AlvinTheCreator I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

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    I don't know... Tuvalu?
    In my opinion, number 2 fits better with the "African" theme.
     
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  5. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    I'd like 1
     
  6. trejiokla Well-Known Member

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    I like 1 because is an innovative pattern, but also 3 are good
     
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  7. Tethys00 Name changed from DubstepGamer758 Donor

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    Flag for a Louisiana thing

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    1. Louisiane
    2. Missouri
    3. Ioway
    4. Nouvelle Normandie
    5. Minnesota
    6. Les Plaines
    7. Province du Nord-Ouest
    1. Cherokee Territory
    2. Lakota Territory
     
  8. Ferd42 Well-Known Member

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  9. Spiritual Sausage Well-Known Member

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    Found these on vexillographia.ru; apparently it's a proposal by an "A. Brianchaninov" to replace the Russian flag after the 1917 revolution, "The New Russia can't have the same emblem as The Old One (Russia), (that was) irreversibly condemned by the people."
     
  10. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    By that you mean the Imperial Russian flag, right?
     
  11. Spiritual Sausage Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the good ol WBR tricolor
     
  12. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    Fictional Crusader / Military Orders Flags:

    This is part of a little concept idea I have where other international religious military orders are founded in the Holy Land... a kind of fictional world though, a bit different that in our timeline, that it like the Crusades taking place with WW2 era tech.

    In Outremer, where the Crusader States border the Fatamids and Seljuks, these orders protect the lands conquered by the Crusaders.

    They're fairly simple flags really, but simple yet profound is just the way I like it.

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    ^^^ --- Order of the Knights of St. Jude, commonly known as the Knights Sanguine.

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    ^^^ --- Order of the Knights of St. Christopher, commonly known as the Knights Caligae.
     
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  13. Spiritual Sausage Well-Known Member

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    "Federalist proposal for the flag of Congo-Léopoldville (May 1960)"
     
  14. SeaCambrian Well-Known Member

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    Cool. Could also be an 1800s Italian city-state
     
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  15. timmy_khagann Nomad of the Red Plains

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    So apparently I got roped into making a bunch of flags for a small mod for HoI4. Partly to show off, partly because I want to post here again, and partly because I want input from you guys, I'm gonna do like the good ol' days and spam the thread with rectangles. Hope you like.

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    Flag for a Trotskyist "Fourth International". The motif inside the gear-with-globe is a modification of the OTL Fourth International symbol. Kinda concerned the gear-with-globe's too much clutter for little gain, I made a variant without it.

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    Communist Byzantium. Figured a revolution in the ERE would have more farmers than urban workers, so I used a scythe and crescent to denote its more "rural" flair. On top of it is the Star of Constantinople. The three white stripes of the bend represent the Black Sea, the Sea of Marmara, and the Aegean Sea, while the two red stripes of the bend represent the Bosporus and the Dardanelles.

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    Fascist Byzantium. Blood-red chi-rho flanked by an alpha and an omega laid on top of a black field. I think the design is simple, terrifying, makes sense given the context, and parallels what the Nazis did to the swastika -- that is, re-purpose an innocuous, if not noble, symbol into a motif of hate.

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    Communist Confederate States of America. I modified the "arm with hammer" logo of the Socialist Labor Party so that the wrist sports a clasp attached to a link of broken chains -- which, given the context, serves the dual meanings of "break the chains" and "free the slaves". The hollowed-out star on top's supposed to be the same one from the Bonnie Blue Flag. Also comes in black and gold.

    Have to say, I really think some of these designs are among the most "breath of fresh air" I've made. More specifically, I'm kinda satisfied after making a commie flag that doesn't have some variant or other of the hammer-and-sickle.

    Comments and suggestions are much appreciated!
     
  16. Pokemon Master What's it to you?

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    #1 looks the best
     
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  17. Thanksforallthefish King of Dolphins

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    Since it's apparently a meme in r/vexillology (though I don't go there), here's Argentina in the flag of California style:

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    The bird is the Hornero (or Ovenbird, Furnarius rufus), the national bird of Argentina and Uruguay. While not particulary majestic or pretty, it is considered a beloved, industrious bird, due to the way it builds its nests:

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    Having one in your house or field is considered good luck.

    I know the drawing sucks but I couldn't find something more simple. Think of it as a ceremonial flag.
     
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  18. Sharklord1 Well-Known Member

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    I decided to make an Irish flags for St. Patrick's day early.
     
  19. WhiteDragon25 Well-Known Member

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    It's been a while since I posted any flags, and while I'm still waiting for a few more parts before I present my Communist Austria-Hungary revamps, I've got quite a few other new designs to hold me over in the meantime, so let's get started:

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    The first three flags on the list here are all Bulgaria-themed, with this one here being my design for the Tsardom of Bulgaria, specifically during the reign of Tsar Boris III from 1918 to 1943.

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    The second Bulgarian flag here is a revamp of a previous design of mine: that of Legionnaires Bulgaria, the alt-history Fascist version where the government was taken over by the Union of Bulgarian National Legions. The flag design itself comes from the one found for Fascist Bulgaria in Hearts of Iron 4.

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    The third and last Bulgarian flag here is, of course, for the People's Republic of Bulgaria (or Socialist Republic of Bulgaria, or Bulgarian People's Republic, or Bulgarian Socialist Republic, or whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-call-it). It's basically almost-identical to the IRL Communist Bulgarian flag, except that the socialist coat-of-arms is moved from the upper-left corner to the center of the flag, and I added a hammer-and-sickle to the red star. I tried using Paint to manually recolor the wreath's banner to match the flag colors, but I didn't have much success on my part.

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    On the same Warsaw Pact note, the next flag here is for the Socialist Republic of Romania (or People's Republic of Romania, or Romanian People's Republic, or Romanian Socialist Republic, or you-get-the-joke-by-now). I did my best to recreate the Romanian socialist coat-of-arms, though like with the Bulgarian one, I wasn't able to get the wreath banner to match the flag colors, so I just stuck a hammer-and-sickle on it to (poorly) make up for that deficiency.

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    On the topic of Communist flags, this next flag takes us all the way to the other side of the continent, to the Far East of Asia - specifically, Manchuria. Here we have a flag for the Manchu Soviet Republic, an alt-history USSR puppet state established after their invasion of Manchuria in the closing days of WWII.

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    On the flip side of the coin, here is my flag design for Empire of Manchukuo, the Japanese puppet state that controlled Manchuria since 1935 until the end of WW2.

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    Moving down south on the same continent, here we have the flag for the Democratic Republic of Indochina, the western-democracy-style version of the Indochinese Union flag I previously made. Incidentally, this design was inspired by a HoI4 mod that adds in more Formable Nations.

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    Speaking of Formable Nations, here's another flag inspired by the same mod, the Empire of Macedonia, bringing the legendary legacy of Alexander the Great back to life!

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    On a related topic, here's a recreation I made of a flag I found on r/Vexillology, for a hypothetical African Union.

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    Lastly, for something completely different, another flag design for the Unified Syndicates of America.



    I have a couple other flags reserved, but I'll hold off on them for now. Hope you enjoyed tonight's entry of flags! Until next time!
     
  20. The Professor Pontifex Collegii Vexillographiariorum

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