Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by SaveAtlacamani, Apr 1, 2014.
When do you make flag, do you respect the araldic rules?
I don't know about "araldic" but I generally use rules that form the basis of heraldic ones: no light colour on light, or dark on dark. I also avoid maps, and also text where possible.
I follow the KIDS rule: keep it damn simple so kids can draw it recognisably.
The Unuseful and dangerous yellow-green goverment in Italy leads to the crash of the country in near future.
The ASB, having piety of Italy, arouse the imperial party, a movement that wish subordinate Italy to Japan.
Thanks to italian Otakus, it gainin 80% of votes and Italy, again with the help of ASB, is been incorporated in Japanese empire as "Western Prefecture"
Obviously the colors, green, white and red are from Italy, while Japan gives us the rising sun.
After the success of Operation Sea Lion, which was accomplished along with the help of the British Union of Fascist, Oswald Mosley and his blackshirts took control of occupied England, declaring himself the Supreme Prime Minister. He called for the Commonwealth countries to obey the orders of laying down arms to the Axis, a call which fell on many a deaf ear. The flag had multiple variants. Red: Army. Blue: Navy. White: Airforce. Gold: Country.
Whilst the call for surrender fell mostly on deaf ears (Except for Canada, excluding Quebec and everything east of it), the call to arms from the former Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, motivated many fighters in the former UK to continue fighting, like Churchill said. Churchill's Army is one of the more well known guerrilla forces.
Their motto being "We Shall Never Surrender".
If you're interested:
First Flag of my US Fixing Flags series, Delaware.
13 Stripes to represent the 13 original colonies, and the lone star to represent the first state.
More to come.
Second Flag, Idaho.
43 stripes in the background for the 43rd state in the union, as well as a lilac, the state's flower.
State of Illinois, Third Flag of the series.
The bars on the top, left, and bottom represent Lake Michigan, Mississippi River, and Ohio River, respectively. 20 stars represent the 20 states that preceded Illinois. The red star represents Illinois, and the rays represent its impact on the Union.
Kansas, state #4.
16 stars on the top row and 17 on the bottom represent the states prior to Kansas. A black line down the middle of the flag represents its central location in the Union. 3 sunflowers, as it is the state's flower.
Too many stripes and an indistinct emblem.
Pretty but not a good flag really.
Little distinction between the coloured rays and too many of them. The stars are also too small to look like stars.
And remember the KIDS rule: keep it damn simple so kids can draw it recognisably.
The first one I could have simplified if I had a better number to work with.
The second one has rays coming from each point of the star.
But you chose the design?
Which star? The middle sunflower?
I meant sunflower, yes.
Here, Islamic invasion moved west and was Rome/Byzantium to be subdued by Islam.
Persian Empire evolved in a merchant oligarchy in XVIII century
In this TL Mohammed failed and Islam didn't develope.
Persia and Byzantium still fought the war in VII century, but without arab invasion Byzantium managed to retain Afric, but eventually also Constantinople fall and Alexandria, at last, took the imperial mantle.
In XVI century the fought between the Emperor and the Pope in Alexandria endend in a decively Papal victory, leading to a "mild" theocracy that lasted until XIX century.
The flag has the red, white and black arab colors and the Cross of the coptic church to simbolize the preeminence of the Papal Authority.
The order of the colors is different from Homeline, with the white diagonal refering to Nilus-
Some new flags from my space project, Overheaven.
The first is actually an update to one I already shared. This is the new version of my Venus flag, with the yellow and green reversed. The reason? Because Venus rotates backwards, and I thought it would be neat to hint at that, by presenting the symbolic stages of Venus' history (yellow for pre-terraforming, blue for the early stages of terraforming, green for biotic terraforming) in reverse.
Now for the new flags I made just today.
The first is the flag of the Martian Assembly. I really, really, really, really like the classic Pascal Lee flag for Mars (the OG red-green-blue tricolor), but I wanted something more my own. Plus, it occurs to me that blue would make more sense as the second color, if you're trying to represent the sequence of terraforming Mars. Anyway. Just like how my Venus flag has a red star to pay homage to the Soviet Union (the nation responsible for originally exploring and colonizing Venus), the Mars flag has thirteen white stars to represent the United States, which landed the first human being on Mars in 1976, and out of all the nations which colonized Mars (Japan, Canada, Britain, Mexico, Turkey, Germany, France, Australia, the Philippines), America was always the most prominent presence on the Red Planet, and has always had the greatest legacy on Martian governance and the Martian cultural predisposition; just as the young American republic looked back to the ancient societies of Athens and Rome for inspiration, Mars in many ways considers itself the torchbearer of what the now-mythologized United States represents, almost two centuries after its collapse. The white circle with the chevron is an alternative take on the traditional symbol for Mars, which I felt was too closely associated with the masculine gender; to clarify, I didn't want to use a "gendered" symbol for Mars for the same reason why the traditional Venus symbol isn't on the Venusian flag. The chevron can also be interpreted as representing Olympus Mons, or the upward mobility, dynamism and fighting spirit of the proud and brash Martian people.
The flags of Mars' moons are definitely all similar in appearance, but I made a point to use different colors and shapes for each one.
Deimos (definitely my favorite of the moon flags)
And then there's the two counterfactual moons that I'm playing with including. See, the same primordial POD in the Late Heavy Bombardment (4 billion years ago - surely not the sort of POD that would butterfly a successful Sealion into existence, no?) which gave Venus its counterfactual moon, Neith, clobbered Mars (increasing its mass from 38% Earth's size, to a more healthy 68%) and gave it two more small, irregular moons: Adrestia and Harmonia (named after the daughters of Ares, and the personifications of revenge and harmony, respectively). Yeah, maybe a bit of a weird thing to add, but lemme have my fun dammit. Anywho.
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions? Death threats?
I don't like much orange, but flag design is great
I like the flags but even if you buff Mars, the US has messed up big in the long term for focusing on it and not focusing on Venus. Is solar-powered communism with the chemical wealth of Venus dominating everything?
Mars gets a major, major head start over Venus, both in terms of terraforming and economic development. Helps that manufacturing was part of the terraforming process; big factories and refineries intentionally churning out CFC's to warm the planet. And for most of Venus' history, you could only live in what amounted to big balloons. The aerostat colonies needed to get all their metals from Venus' counterfactual moon, Neith (until automated mining operations in the early 2000's opened up the surface to mineral extraction). You're right that sulfur and carbon was exported from Venus. Like, almost all of it. Usually in exchange for hydrogen, which is useful for splitting CO2 into water and graphite. But by the time the carbon trade was gaining momentum, Mars was already ahead of the curve as the gateway to the Belt and Outer Colonies further afield, and today, it's more or less Earth's factory, with the second-largest shipyards in the Solar System (Luna beats Mars by a hair's width). Venus has only become an industrial power in the last 30 or so years. They do harvest lots and lots of solar energy (the crescent-shaped sun on the Venusian flag is a reference to the Cupid Array, which blocks and absorbs a good chunk of Venus' sunlight), but it's not really economical for them to export it; only Mercury has managed to run their entire economy with solar energy.
It's also worth noting that Venus isn't communist. They love the imagery, they're proud of their ancestors, and they might even be more willing to have socialist policies than the Martians are, but the average Venusian is very much a capitalist. Communism hasn't really been a relevant presence on Venus for about 194 years now. By the time the USSR fell in the 2030's, communism wasn't even very big in Leningrad. Venusians are more in love with the image of the Soviet Union, and its accomplishments as they relate to Venus, than they are with what the USSR really stood for. The red star, the hammer and sickle, and the initials "CCCP" have been interpreted through a distinctly Venusian lens. Those interpretations have been reinterpreted, mythologized, deconstructed and reconstructed, to such an extent that they carry a very different folk message in 2185 that what they originally represented in, say, 1917 or 1961. And the Martians are very much the same with how they view "Old America".
In this TL Kurdistan become an indipendent sultanate during the XVIII century following the defeat of ottomans by the hands of amore powerful Persia.
Kurdistan turned shia.
The flag has the colors of iranian peoples(white, red and white) but arranged in two hemblems, the sun for kurdistan and the green crescent for islam.
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