Flag Thread III
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Updated flag of French Scotland or Frenchland
I doubt they'd go for that. While the St Andrew Cross is a "land banner", the Fleur de Lys is a royal coat of arms. Different things. It's like someone used a portrait of Queen Victoria as a flag, you know. Not the same thing.
It would proably be a mix of this:
and this:
And the "land flag" might combine St Andrew's cross with the French military banner for infantry, the white cross on blue:
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Although I'll be the first to admit it might not be the most plausible, this was my idea for an union of france and scotland. The french merchant ensign combined with the st. andrew cross is pretty intuitive but I just felt it was a bit boring.
not sure "frenchland" would be taken by anyone as meaning a combination a combination of france and scotland rather then a different way of saying france only
Why not the Scottish St. Andrew's cross with fleur-de-lis in the four triangles?
CthulhuFhtagn
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Some flags I've been working on for an ATL United States. It's a loose confederation made up of 10 kingdoms and a handful of federal territories, all of which share the same monarch, from the House of Avalon-Veracruz, as their ceremonial head of state. They're all linked to imgur:
Kingdom of Atlanta: Created from the southern territory of the Kingdom of Columbia in the Victorian Compromise of 1845. Includes the OTL CSA (except for Texas), Maryland, and Kentucky.
Dominion of California: Declared independence from the Spanish Empire during the Spanish-American War, in 1865. Includes OTL California, northern NM/AZ, Nevada, and Utah.
Kingdom of Canada: Declared independence from Britain alongside Columbia in 1767. Includes OTL Quebec, Newfoundland, Labrador, and the Maritimes.
Dominion of Cascadia: Gained independence from Britain in 1909, during the Great War. Includes OTL British Columbia and Alberta.
Kingdom of Columbia: Declared independence from Great Britain alongside Canada in 1767. Includes the rest of the OTL US, Ontario, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan.
Commonwealth of Cuba: "Voluntarily" offered the crown to King Alexander II at the end of the Spanish-American War.
Duchy of Guatemala: Originally a part of Mexico, it became a separate federal entity in 1906. Includes OTL Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Chiapas, and northern Nicaragua.
Empire of Mexico: Gained independence from Spain during the Spanish-American War, became joined to the other states by the marriage of Empress Maria I to King Alexander II in 1876.
Duchy of Nicaragua: Like Guatemala, it was originally part of Mexico, although it gained its independence in 1884. The Nicaraguan flag, with its distinctive bat emblem, was made to honor Roberto Wayne, "The Batman", a multimillionaire-turned freedom fighter who was instrumental in the defeat of the Spanish in Central America during the Spanish-American War. Includes OTL Nicaragua, Panama, and Costa Rica.
Dominion of Texas: Declared its independence in 1864. The Texan Revolution, and the House of Avalon's support of it, was one of the main causes of the Spanish-American War. Includes OTL Texas, eastern New Mexico, and western Louisiana.
The Crown Territories: The 13 territories under the direct rule of the federal government. Includes the capital, Avalon, as well as number of islands around the world.
The House of Avalon-Veracruz: The American Royal Family. Created by the union of the House of Avalon and the House of Veracruz in 1876. The House of Avalon was founded by Frederick I "the Great" of Avalon. Frederick was formerly known as Prince Frederick von Hohenzollern of Prussia, although he gave up his claim to the Prussian throne following his escape to America in 1730. The House of Veracruz was founded by Emperor Carlos I of Veracruz, formerly Duke Carlos de Borbón.
Edit: The blue double-headed eagle was created by Regicollis from Deviantart.com, and I used that as the base for the white version. The same thing goes for the royal coat of arms. For that, I redid the shield and removed a couple stars, but otherwise left the original design as it was. I can't believe I almost forgot to give credit for that.
Kingdom of Atlanta: Created from the southern territory of the Kingdom of Columbia in the Victorian Compromise of 1845. Includes the OTL CSA (except for Texas), Maryland, and Kentucky.
Dominion of California: Declared independence from the Spanish Empire during the Spanish-American War, in 1865. Includes OTL California, northern NM/AZ, Nevada, and Utah.
Kingdom of Canada: Declared independence from Britain alongside Columbia in 1767. Includes OTL Quebec, Newfoundland, Labrador, and the Maritimes.
Dominion of Cascadia: Gained independence from Britain in 1909, during the Great War. Includes OTL British Columbia and Alberta.
Kingdom of Columbia: Declared independence from Great Britain alongside Canada in 1767. Includes the rest of the OTL US, Ontario, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan.
Commonwealth of Cuba: "Voluntarily" offered the crown to King Alexander II at the end of the Spanish-American War.
Duchy of Guatemala: Originally a part of Mexico, it became a separate federal entity in 1906. Includes OTL Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Chiapas, and northern Nicaragua.
Empire of Mexico: Gained independence from Spain during the Spanish-American War, became joined to the other states by the marriage of Empress Maria I to King Alexander II in 1876.
Duchy of Nicaragua: Like Guatemala, it was originally part of Mexico, although it gained its independence in 1884. The Nicaraguan flag, with its distinctive bat emblem, was made to honor Roberto Wayne, "The Batman", a multimillionaire-turned freedom fighter who was instrumental in the defeat of the Spanish in Central America during the Spanish-American War. Includes OTL Nicaragua, Panama, and Costa Rica.
Dominion of Texas: Declared its independence in 1864. The Texan Revolution, and the House of Avalon's support of it, was one of the main causes of the Spanish-American War. Includes OTL Texas, eastern New Mexico, and western Louisiana.
The Crown Territories: The 13 territories under the direct rule of the federal government. Includes the capital, Avalon, as well as number of islands around the world.
The House of Avalon-Veracruz: The American Royal Family. Created by the union of the House of Avalon and the House of Veracruz in 1876. The House of Avalon was founded by Frederick I "the Great" of Avalon. Frederick was formerly known as Prince Frederick von Hohenzollern of Prussia, although he gave up his claim to the Prussian throne following his escape to America in 1730. The House of Veracruz was founded by Emperor Carlos I of Veracruz, formerly Duke Carlos de Borbón.
Edit: The blue double-headed eagle was created by Regicollis from Deviantart.com, and I used that as the base for the white version. The same thing goes for the royal coat of arms. For that, I redid the shield and removed a couple stars, but otherwise left the original design as it was. I can't believe I almost forgot to give credit for that.
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a more plausible idea for a franco-scottish union then my previous one inspired by cèsar's comments.
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Alex Richards
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That emblem in the middle. What's it supposed to represent? Heraldically it's a shape which doesn't exist.
france used a round shield on some of it's flags, the oval was just to save time as I reused already existing shields with a rounded bottom that I flipped around.
Technically speaking, there is no such thing as a "proper" heraldic shield, the shape used is up to the illustrator and tend to vary depending on time periods and country of origin.
it does look fascistic enough, the only thing I have some reservations about is the fact that replacing the central part of the trident with a sword means that the other 2 represent nothing. Maybe if suitable objects, or even initials of the party, replaced them, you would keep the general ukrainian trident motif but with an added symbolic.
I borrowed the symbol of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, which is basically the same as the Right Sector party.
CthulhuFhtagn
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I've got a version of it here, which shows the 10 states and the crown territories. I'm still working on the subnational boundaries, though (Work in progress version here). Both maps also have a wikibox-type thing on the side that includes stuff like GDP, land area, and the distribution of population in each state. Please let me know if I've made any errors (on one of my old maps, I accidentally wrote "million" instead of "trillion")
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It's an existing symbol that Ukrainian fascists use sometimes. Also, the Trident is probably supposed to have originated from a hawk falling on its prey, so it would be a winged sword. Not bad a meaning either.
Nice. The central coat of arms doesn't bother at all. Good brainstorming.
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