Flag Thread III
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Very nice but I do find the mural crown a bit odd as it's usually for CoA of Cities/Towns/Municipalities.
The first flag is definitely my favourite of the 2
A maltese cross with fleur de lys in between the branches is actualy not a specifically huguenot symbol but that of various orders of chivalry in france:
ordre de saint-Louis:
ordre du saint-esprit:
The one with the the dove hanging from it on the other hand is indeed one though it was adopted fairly recently.
It's my favourite too. I'm still trying to discover where do these colours come from.
The mural crown is also a republican symbol. The Spanish Second Republic replaced the royal crown with a mural one (the First Republic did the same but with a Civic Crown, which is made of oak leaves).
Well, the red and gold are traditional colours of the region - Aquitaine, Toulouse, and most of the various counties, used them in their arms.
Orange may be a reference to the prominence of the Orange Principality situated in Provence near Avignon (tho the orange colour came from the name not the arms) and the House of Orange did have an association with Protestantism so perhaps references the Huguenots as well; or it could just be a mix of the colours
Interesting. I was aware of the Civic Crown but not that the Mural was adapted. Makes sense tho.
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Flag of the Spiš Republic from my Sparrow Avengers universe. NOT an official entry yet, just a testbed. I just want to ask what you think about the colour combinations of the flag's alternating fields and the two metals and green colour that separate them (those three being the less dominant/frequented parts of the tincture on the coat of arms). The coat of arms in the middle is from an original 19th century illustration of the Spiš county's great CoA. I put it there merely as a placeholder until I replace it with my far more polished version. The flag's four main fields are deliberately of a different colour than the colours on the shield's four quarters/fields.
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I really dig the way you used metals in the cross, although I think it would look better if the bands were uniform in all four arms. The CoA is aesthetically a bit busy, especially with the rest of the colours, and the background would be really cool as a standalone flag, but the context seems to call for it and it works all the same.
OK. I thought that the alternation of colours on the bands would make the flag less monotonous. I'm glad that you find the flag base serviceable.
What's the history of this universe, and how have all these Slovak city-states survived? You mentioned a League of Nations, which makes me think the PoD is some kind of massive balkanisation of the region with the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire after WWI. If so, how come Hungary didn't gobble up all of those little city-states? Are they equally fragmented?
I'm really curious too. A map would be awesome as well, though I guess you don't have one.
Only Bratislava and Košice are city states (though Košice has the Abov-Turňa Domain in its pocket and basically treats it as its own extended territory, while denying it on paper). The other territories are simply small countries that were founded as more of an "interim solution" grudgingly tolerated by international organizations, but just stuck in place because of several hardly resolvable factors. However, a unification will gradually occur later in the 20th century.
As I've already mentioned in several other places of this board, one of the major PODs of the TL is a far uglier and more chaotic post-WWI situation in central and eastern Europe. Old empires have fallen and their offspring is... rather peculiar.
But the timeline is divergent from OTL already during the second half of the 19th century, though in very slight, subtle ways. It's just that the alternate outcomes of WWI are the final, massive departure point of the TL.
*cock-sure J. J. Abrams smile*
"All will be revealed in due time..."
All I can say is, even Hungary, though it eventually licks its wounds and puts itself back on its feet during the 1920s, has undergone some weird changes.
Ditto the Polish lands and partly also the Czech lands. And the less said about the fate of Russia (erm, more like Russias), the better...Here's a very preliminary map, I haven't even started properly drawing borders on it yet (it's rather hard with a blank map like this, but I'll manage). The locations of the countries are indicated by their names. The map shows the situation as it is in 1937.
(Ignore the names of the Polish countries outside of Silesia - the two names are no longer canon and I meant them only as placeholders. Also, the inner changes to Hungary are not visible either.)
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Interesting scenario that. Come Saturday I might be able to help you out with the mapping if you'd like.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
The whole international situation is rather weird and convoluted. It's like Crimson Skies moved to Eurasia, and on steroids ! Incidentally, here's an old map showing the situation in the Czech lands around 1938. Due to necessity being the mother of invention, they've become a federal republic 50-70 years earlier.
Unfortunately, I saved the map as a JPEG (my n00b beginnings and all), so it looks like crap. But I have plans to remake it soon and make it look a bit slicker too.Which family rules Nappy's puppet kingdoms in Illyria and Naples ?
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Well, both of those are meant to be flags of Illyria, with the second one being based on one of the flags of Naples. In the vague TL idea that inspired these flags, in which an assassination attempt against Napoleon in 1809 is successful, I imagine that Illyria would be given to someone in exchange for them not making trouble in France, though I'm not sure who. One of Napoleon's brothers? One of the marshals? Naples would probably go on being ruled by Murat.
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