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False Dmitri

Oren_neu_dag said:
Where is the feedback people!!!!
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I agree with Krall on the Egypt flag - if the country is modern Pharaonic Egypt, I'd expect something different from "various ancient Egypt symbols on a flag". What's the culture like today? I presume everyone isn't riding around in chariots and so forth. How has the country evolved? Has Egypt gone through any non-pharaonic periods? I think it's a pretty neat flag, but it's hard to imagine how such a flag would come about historically.

IMO, the eye is a stronger symbol of the pharaohs than the sphinxes. If you simplify it, I'd keep the eye. If you want to give it a "modern" feel, you could even make a more geometrical Eye of Horus. Here I'm thinking of Germany's modern coat of arms, in which the eagle has a very different look from the one on the traditional heraldic coat of arms.
 

Oren_neu_dag

Benkarnell said:
I agree with Krall on the Egypt flag - if the country is modern Pharaonic Egypt, I'd expect something different from "various ancient Egypt symbols on a flag". What's the culture like today? I presume everyone isn't riding around in chariots and so forth. How has the country evolved? Has Egypt gone through any non-pharaonic periods? I think it's a pretty neat flag, but it's hard to imagine how such a flag would come about historically.

IMO, the eye is a stronger symbol of the pharaohs than the sphinxes. If you simplify it, I'd keep the eye. If you want to give it a "modern" feel, you could even make a more geometrical Eye of Horus. Here I'm thinking of Germany's modern coat of arms, in which the eagle has a very different look from the one on the traditional heraldic coat of arms.
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The Modern Pharonic Kingdom of Egypt is indeed very Modern country in this ATL of the early 21st century. The fact that it has the Cross of Ankh on it and the two sphynxes is just a sign of Past Glory (that hopefully thig glory will come again), In this case it is just like in the Flag of Israel where there are two stripes for the talit and a shield of david - ancient symbols from at least the 4th century BCE - it doesn't say we stone ppl to death or that we are split between the Judean people's Front and the Popular Front of Judea (damn those Popular Front of Judea!).

Old symbols are just a reflection of past glory and national pride - I see no reason why we shouldn't use them.
 
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catboy637

Some form of Amuyaad counqered England.

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iori

From the Great Death TL I'm doing, the flag of the Ottoman Federation.
During the early beginning of the 20th century internal unrest in the Ottoman Empire sparked calls for reform, however the government was slow to do this and in 1917 their was a revolution, eventually leading to the Ottoman Federal Republic, which in the 60's would become the Ottoman Federation upon adoption of a second constitution.

The flag represents the two major ethno-cultural groups of the Federation, the Turks (Moon & Star) and the Kurds (Kurd sun).
(The Arabs were either deported, fled or willingly immigrated to the Arabian Republic.)

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Dutchie

Oren_neu_dag said:
The Modern Pharonic Kingdom of Egypt is indeed very Modern country in this ATL of the early 21st century. The fact that it has the Cross of Ankh on it and the two sphynxes is just a sign of Past Glory (that hopefully thig glory will come again), In this case it is just like in the Flag of Israel where there are two stripes for the talit and a shield of david - ancient symbols from at least the 4th century BCE - it doesn't say we stone ppl to death or that we are split between the Judean people's Front and the Popular Front of Judea (damn those Popular Front of Judea!).

Old symbols are just a reflection of past glory and national pride - I see no reason why we shouldn't use them.
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hard to take your screaming for feedback if you're going to disregard all comments...

I too find the symbols you've chosen to be lacking in imagination, as well the yellow/green/blue/green/yellow for the nile. Its cliche. if the country is so modern (don't know why you needed to bold it) then it probably also includes more cultural depth than you're showing - then again, the country feels the need to put Modern in their name, which smacks of North Korea's Democratic principles...
 

Dutchie

Iori Komei said:
From the Great Death TL I'm doing, the flag of the Ottoman Federation.
During the early beginning of the 20th century internal unrest in the Ottoman Empire sparked calls for reform, however the government was slow to do this and in 1917 their was a revolution, eventually leading to the Ottoman Federal Republic, which in the 60's would become the Ottoman Federation upon adoption of a second constitution.

The flag represents the two major ethno-cultural groups of the Federation, the Turks (Moon & Star) and the Kurds (Kurd sun).
(The Arabs were either deported, fled or willingly immigrated to the Arabian Republic.)
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I like the design. Perhaps the reds should be the same colour, and I'd suggest making the yellow a touch darker so it stands out better against the white background.
 
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iori

Dutchie said:
I like the design. Perhaps the reds should be the same colour, and I'd suggest making the yellow a touch darker so it stands out better against the white background.
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I knew I was forgetting to do something when I made it (synchronizing the reds), and indeed a darker shade of yellow probably would make it better, thanks for the input.
 

Brdman

Question on posting flags

Hi, All. This is Brdman. My enormous photobucket account i've worked on is at 548 drawings.
Most of these are flags, some are coats of arms, and some are flag-maps.

From my counting, there are 8 flags that are "combination new-old" combining the new with the old flag. Since this is a relatively small amount (My combination national flags are about 180), I would like to post them.
Remember, I still have no way of getting rid of the ghastly "white space"
I work from a Macintosh that is too old to work with a drawing program that could make better flags!

Do you have an idea of how to make better versions?

I really like how Dutchie put many flags together on one page. Do you know how I could do that with my flags?

THANXS:)
 

Dutchie

Brdman said:
Hi, All. This is Brdman. My enormous photobucket account i've worked on is at 548 drawings.
Most of these are flags, some are coats of arms, and some are flag-maps.

From my counting, there are 8 flags that are "combination new-old" combining the new with the old flag. Since this is a relatively small amount (My combination national flags are about 180), I would like to post them.
Remember, I still have no way of getting rid of the ghastly "white space"
I work from a Macintosh that is too old to work with a drawing program that could make better flags!

Do you have an idea of how to make better versions?

I really like how Dutchie put many flags together on one page. Do you know how I could do that with my flags?

THANXS:)
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When I want to put many flags in one, I open up a large canvas and drop in the flags I've developed, shrinking to make them fit. This makes for just one image to be uploaded.

And I've never seen a image app that didn't have a crop tool, or the ability to adjust canvas sizes. But I'm not familiar with macs so don't really know what you're working with.
 
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Aelita

Dutchie said:
hate to say it but... meh, nothing paticularily American about it. Looks like a generic socialist flag. Americans love their iconography, and they've built up a good supply they are unlikely to be discarded. Mayhap an eagle surrounding the cog/wheat trim?
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Well, there's generally a reason why flags have very simple symbollogy to them: weaving anything more complex is damned difficult. Since this flag would be adopted in the 1930s in my TL, I can't have it too complex. After all, it has to be cheap and easy enough to make that everyone can have one flying on their porch.

Now, a coat of arms for the country would definitely keep the eagle symbollogy, but I confess that my photoshop skills are not quite good enough to make something that looks good enough
 
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iori

The flag of the Federation of Arab Emirates (UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and a connecting strip of SA) from my Great Death TL.

While their was no Arab Revolt in the TL the colors still came to represent Pan-Arabianism, the Black represent the prophet Mohammad, the Green Islam, the Red the Martyrs and the White Purity, and in the case of the FAE and Oman the Monarchy.

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Dutchie

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Dutchie

The flag of Norlund - a Scandanavian country with strong paganist tendencies, although there is a significant
Christian element which has led to the recent addition of the jewelled cross to the national flag. the wyvern is a symbol of strength and power of the rulers, descended from Loki, the Clever God (foriegners mistakenly call him the Trickster God...). Local theology conflates Loki and Christ into one "Son of God", which doesn't go well with Catholic or Orthodox christians to the south...

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iori

iori

The flag of the Aegyptian Empire from my Great Death TL.
Aegypt is a nation comprising modern Egypt, North Sudan and East Libya.
After the Great Death the new culture that emerged followed a syncretic culture based on Coptic christianity with a few Islamic influences and a mixture of ancient Egyptian neo-pagan beliefs.

The brown represents the desert and Aegypt's ancient past while the Green represents life (plants=life) and the future. The blue cross represents the Nile river while in the center is a coptic cross.

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