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This is super-cool. I am especially pleased that you eliminated Wertham's anti-comic crusade without trying to demonize him.
Especially since he WAS a demon. Wouldn't know the Scientific Method if it bit him in the ass.
This is super-cool. I am especially pleased that you eliminated Wertham's anti-comic crusade without trying to demonize him.
Any thoughts on the wartime Canadian industry? Or the postwar Canadian ban, including criminal sanctions?neamathla said:Bans on comic books that various cities had enacted such as Los Angeles were being found to be unconstitutional.
Why would Robin be butterflied? The POD is 1945, which is five years after Robin's appearance.Count me subscribed, too. Looong time comics buff.
Any thoughts on the wartime Canadian industry? Or the postwar Canadian ban, including criminal sanctions?
Also, do you see any butterflies impacting Finger's decision to introduce Robin, or Ellsworth's decision to ban Bats killing?
Also, thinking of Late Plastic Age, what about the Millennium books? And the new X-men?
How does she last two years longer than OTL? (Presuming Gerry Conway is still writing the book... As I understand, he didn't like her.)neamathla said:Amazing Web #145, in which the Web's long-time girlfriend Lynn Stacey was killed.
Which butterflies the clone stories... Does this also butterfly the Peter clone? And The Jackal?neamathla said:While death in comic books is rarely permanent, Mighty editorial degree has her death as permanent.
I noticed that after I posted the question...trollhole said:Why would Robin be butterflied? The POD is 1945, which is five years after Robin's appearance.
OTL, there was a 1946 black hero, actually created by a black writer-artist team (or black writer-artist, don't recall which...), called Lion Man. He made all of one appearance in a black-run book...neamathla said:During the Golden Age, the only two American minority superheroes were Gleason's Bronze Terror and All-American's Whip.
She lived til 1973, OTL.All-Negro comics had a pile of them, but I suppose most of them weren't superheroes.
As for Miss Stacy lasting longer, I thought this TL had her die in 1970, while in the real world, she lived until 19977?
*facepalm* This is #1000 on my list of Reasons I Hate DC. About 990 of them are the godawful stupid names.Kalvan said:Duke of Oil
Which has to be about as lame a name as DC ever came up with. Up there with Beast Boy.neamathla said:Animal Man
Which, if anything, is worse than the LSH version OTL.neamathla said:Karate Man
Except OTL it was Amazing 122. TTL, it's 145...which is about 2yr more, given she's introduced around the same time in TTL's Amazing.trollhole said:She lived til 1973, OTL.
Cage wasn't helped by Marvel not being able to make up its mind what they wanted to do with him. Nor with the fact the writing was pretty awful...Kalvan said:[Cage] probably wouldn't have survived much past the Seventies without the teamup with Iron Fist
Why not? New lineups for books that aren't selling aren't exactly news. Avengers, Titans, & LSH all saw changes. Why not Xmen? (That's "zhmen"...)Brady Kj said:This will be no place for anything like the New X-Men.
I do kind of wonder why not, but after the Bay of Pigs, I can buy this.neamathla said:ITTL, Vietnam never escalated beyond Kennedy's advisor stage.
Seeing Robin boosted sales on Bats about double, why wouldn't they do what other companies did? Especially considering the target audience in the GA was 10yr olds...neamathla said:As a general rule the Golden Age All-American writers didn’t use sidekicks.
Why not, say, The Patriot? Which would amount to a GA revival...unless you give him the SA Flash treatment.neamathla said:Golden Age Bucky was shown to have assumed a new moniker in 1950s, the Volunteer.
Has this butterflied the reuse of the name? Has this also happened elsewhere? (In the latter case, has it had further butterflies?) I ask because I kind of liked all three (especially Carol). And Rick Jones was the best sidekick I've ever seen.neamathla said:Golden Wonder Man [was] obliviated by a DC lawsuit when the character first appeared. He will not making any appearances.
More important, will Grant Morrison be writing it?Kalvan said:Was there ever a Doom Patrol
That kind of makes me wonder if Lilandra didn't have a Martian in command of her flagship. (And what about the Red Martians? All dead?)is J'onn the last Green Martian
Please tell me she isn't plagued with those stupid dotted lines...neamathla said:Marvel Girl with another name.
Insofar as that was a "Marvel Woman upgrade" OTL, that saddens me somewhat.neamathla said:She will not become Phoenix.
Nice idea, & I do appreciate the effort, but from what I've read, the trouble was the product of an idiot agent who kept no written records, & then died...neamathla said:All-American adapted Piper's stories for the "New Direction" titles. This puts Piper in a better financial situation. So, he does not commit suicide and lives until 1970, when he dies of a heart attack.
Glad to see you're continuing this....please don't have Tim Burton make the Batman movies!
I love your Outsiders! Much better than OTL's Legion of Superheroes. How did you make these covers? What inspired you to make these lineups? Most of these look like original characters to me. And is it safe to assume that Nightcrawler and Wolverine are from places far from Germany and Canada?
Also, will Roy Thomas create something like Infinity Inc somewhere?
I take it then that Flash Gordon didn't have a score by Queen.
I thought that Wolverine was first drawn by John Romita Sr for Incredible Hulk #181. Shouldn't he be a Mighty or Escape character?
Perhaps this Wolverine is an unrelated character who happens to have the same name? Perhaps he is this timeline's Lobo.
So, is Lobo one of The Outsiders' later villains? Or will he be giving The Guardians fits?
I love how all of Neamathla's characters look like they're created in the time periods they're supposed to be from. I've seen people fail to do that a lot. Great work, Neamathla!
I like the new sketch of Thor much better.
A Steven Spielberg Supes. Why didn't the Salkinds try to wrestle it back from him after the first movie? Richard Donner made almost as much money and they still screwed him over. Or did Warner Brothers still by DC's parent company ITTL?
So which villains did Spielberg use? Lex? Brainiac? Metallo? Bizarro? Parasite? Silver Banshee? Toyman? Prankster? Ultreaa? General Zod? Richard Pryor and the J.R. Ewing stand-in who would inspire OTL Post Crisis Lex?
Oh, and did Mark Hamil play Jimmy Olsen?
Why do I get the impression that Ron Perelman (The corporate raider, not the actor) will be seen as a white knight after so many years of mismanagement of Mighty, at least in the begining? (Especially if Michael Eisner never makes president and the position stays within the Disney family.)
So, what's Ollie's new origin this time? And how long will it stick?
Why do I get the impression that Sinea will form the foundation for an ATL Dark Horse Comcs?
In OTL, rankings of the top comic book heroes invariably include Batman, Superman, Spiderman, and Wolverine -- who, TTL, would be likewise universally lauded?
I have a related question for Neamathla, and anyone who feels like guessing. ITTL, what superhero titles have made it through the rough years between the Golden and Silver Ages without getting canceled? I'm guessing there were more than three.
Also, I have some artistic suggestions. Could you make the Web's color scheme resemble those of the Golden Age Web? I find the Silver Age one's colors to be unappealing.
And could you make the Green Mask's trunks blue? I think he'd look much better with one less color, and it seems that OTL's Green Mask usually had blue trunks.
Any thoughts on the wartime Canadian industry? Or the postwar Canadian ban, including criminal sanctions?
Why not, say, The Patriot? Which would amount to a GA revival...unless you give him the SA Flash treatment.
Has this butterflied the reuse of the name? Has this also happened elsewhere? (In the latter case, has it had further butterflies?) I ask because I kind of liked all three (especially Carol). And Rick Jones was the best sidekick I've ever seen.
More important, will Grant Morrison be writing it?
Please tell me she isn't plagued with those stupid dotted lines...
Insofar as that was a "Marvel Woman upgrade" OTL, that saddens me somewhat.
Nice idea, & I do appreciate the effort, but from what I've read, the trouble was the product of an idiot agent who kept no written records, & then died...
One other thing: why "5 colors"?
Thx. Mostly, tho, I was thinking about the '50s. In the U.S., there was hysteria thanks in part to Wertham. It seems, in Canada at the time, there was much the same, which led to a criminal penalty (& a few charges) for books (or publishers) "contributing to delinquency" or somesuch. (I can't recall the specifics...). I wondered if the change in U.S. attitude TTL impacted that.neamathla said:I think the trends in non-American comics remain basically on track. By the time my POD affects national politics, it too late to save the Canadian comic book industry. The Canadian revival of the 1970s is slightly stronger due to the fragmentation of OTL's "Big Two" and more widespread acceptance of underground titles. Most international characters such as Asterisk and Judge Dread still arrive roughly on time.
Pat was the first guy to come to mind, only. So, Bucky doesn't get renovated with a "Hobgoblin treatment"?neamathla said:Bucky only exists on Earth-Zero (home of all the Golden Age characters) where the Patriot already exists.
Thx.neamathla said:All-American has used the name twice. The first was a male version of Wonder Woman. The second was your standard brick. Neither character caught on. Despite that, the other companies have ceded the name to All-American. OTL's Captain Mar-Vell is TTL's Captain Atom. The Ms. Marvel equivalent appeared at Escape, Roy Thomas didn't create the character until after he left Charlton.
One of the side-effects of no sidekicks.neamathla said:Unfortunately, Rick Jones wasn't created in TTL.
If it's not DP, I'm not sure I care. His run there was among the best stuff I've ever seen. (Also, unquestionably, the weirdest.)neamathla said:He will be writing something, I still working on what.
Oh, no, I don't mean cosmic. Jean got the same treatment Sue would: new look &, best of all, and end to the dotted lines; if all she got was a mild power bump, it'd suit me fine. Since that also means she wouldn't die, even better.neamathla said:any upgrade to Mighty Girl will not be to a cosmic level.
Ah. Excellent. I'm also a fan of his, so the idea of Return of Space Viking or more fuzzies is a good thing. (I do hope this doesn't butterfly Golden Dream, tho. D'you suppose Piper would have opposed it? Tho he'd have been dead awhile then, anyhow...)neamathla said:Piper has always been a favorite of mine. In TTL, Piper has a personal relationship with Gaines. So, He sends Piper's checks directly to him. Thus avoiding some of the mess with the agent.
Makes sense.neamathla said:The first book I read on the history of comic books was "All in Color for a Dime". However for some reason, I always misremember as "Four Colors for a Dime". That was the title I tweaked, adding a fifth color, white (the paper), to the title.
Amazing must been a weekly series for a while due to good sales.Except OTL it was Amazing 122. TTL, it's 145...which is about 2yr more, given she's introduced around the same time in TTL's Amazing.
True, but with the creators at different companies, and Mighty being run by Disney, it will be a very different team.Why not? New lineups for books that aren't selling aren't exactly news. Avengers, Titans, & LSH all saw changes. Why not Xmen? (That's "zhmen"...)
I doubt it. That was a distinctly '90s stupidity.Brady Kj said:Amazing must been a weekly series for a while due to good sales.
No argument there....Brady Kj said:it will be a very different team
Considering Disney ownership, what are the chances for *JLI/JLE ending up there?Brady Kj said:Will there be any good comedy superhero teams in the near future?
How much is TTL's Green Lantern like Captain Comet? Is he a mutant? Is there a comet involved?
Also, Batman questions. IOTL, Alfred died and Catwoman fell into obscurity. Bruce's Aunt Harriet was created to add a third character to the household and put a female face in the book. The TV show brought back Alfred and Catwoman. What is the status of Alfred, Catwoman, and Harriet ITTL?
Also, is there anything resembling Krypto, Comet, or the other super-animals? Perhaps Wonder Woman has them ITTL, seeing as how she has a cousin who seems to be a version of Supergirl.
Does any comic book company not use a shared universe?
What are Eastman and Laird going to be up to?
How many questions are too many?
I am enjoying this time line, Thanks for your hard work. Love the Flash as a Radio show. But how could any studio do a Green Lantern Film serial with a serial low budget and 1940 effects? The ring rays would have to be animated and in 1948, this is done by hand. I just do not see it at that time. '
Why not do a Wonder Woman serial? Female leads in Serial were not unheard of. Republic did several.
Who did you see starting in the Flash Serial?
Are there any plans to have a merger between two of the companies? Similar to DC buying Fawcett in OTL?