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The Guns of Assab instead of the Guns or Navarone?
Major Mallory would need to be a desert expert instead of a mountainer, but the plot could be very similar.
The Guns of Assab instead of the Guns or Navarone?
The Italians should have adopted the ZB-26 as their squad LMG instead of the godawful Breda:
Tobruk was on the TV recently.Major Mallory would need to be a desert expert instead of a mountaineer, but the plot could be very similar.![]()
I forgot that Mallory was his name. Was that a nod to George Mallory? I recently learned that Trafford Leigh-Mallory was his younger brother.Major Mallory would need to be a desert expert instead of a mountainer, but the plot could be very similar.![]()
Give them the license and the government pays the fee?But this will also mean offend the industrialist that get a lot of money with the contract of the armed forces, sure they deliver obsolete product with abysmal delay and usually shoddy craftmanships...but the entire point is make them happy so they don't cause trouble to Benny, not having well equipped armed forces
Give them the license and the government pays the fee?
I forgot that Mallory was his name. Was that a nod to George Mallory? I recently learned that Trafford Leigh-Mallory was his younger brother.
Sounds like something that could be solved by nationalization of Breda and some extended stay in prison for the owner.There is also the problem that's go against autarky and this is a big no no, plus Breda was more like Ansaldo: my way or the highway
Sounds like something that could be solved by nationalization of Breda and some extended stay in prison for the owner.
They did nationalize Breda post-war.I am not a fan of nationalization of industries. However, Italy, the nation, would have benefited from aircraft and weapons industry consolidation/reorganization. Italy did have a proto-LST design. It did not develop a landing craft, despite ruling many islands and having neighbors with extensive coastlines.
I think we're well on our way toward improving the Italian industry/military then.Oh sure, but honestly if one must go that way, Ansaldo is the first of the list...the big two reason that there were only wielded armor for the tank and even in 43 they had no tank with cast armour was for the cost of changing all the production line and the fact that they can bill more work hour to the army, plus the top brass perfectly know how obsolete were the vehicle bought but were ordered to take it for political reason as Ansaldo hold a lot of political influence.
Honestly, if you want a more fitter italian army...not considering avoiding the Ethiopian invasion and the partecipation to the Spanish civil war to not waste resource needed for the modernization, make of the Ansaldo direction board some example will greatly improve things
The aircraft version was already 2kg heavier than the Breda 30 and making it into an infantry weapon would jack it up even further before modifying it for 8mm Mauser.Or, even better idea, make a Breda-SAFAT in 8mm Breda for the infantry.
Might rephrase this as, "...average Italian fighting man liked his adversary nations better than his allies...a whole lot better"
Generally speaking their supply situation in later years was better than in 1940 when Mussolini assumed the war was nearly over and didn't have to worry about serious combat just having boots on the ground to get a place at the negotiating table. 1943 was a different ball game of course due to material losses on all fronts being so bad, as well as the loss of so many of their best men.The Italian Army’s problem wasn’t they loved or even liked the British and Americans or hated their allies.
The average Italian soldier felt their officers and generals had little respect for them and considered them canon fodder. They also felt their government didn’t have their back at all and was handing them greatly substandard food and equipment.
The Italian soldiers when better led in late ‘41 and ‘42 actually showed some tenacity compared to the epic fail that was 1940 for them.
I'm not talking about the LMG role. I'm talking about the MMG role, as an alternative to the Breda 37 (which weighted a whopping 19.4kg and was generally a PoS).The aircraft version was already 2kg heavier than the Breda 30 and making it into an infantry weapon would jack it up even further before modifying it for 8mm Mauser.
You could have a much lighter ZB26 in 8mm Mauser, which would be easier to modify for the 8mm Breda if you wanted to, a lot easier.
Ah, in that case that would make sense, but at that point they might as well just use the 7.7mm, as you could use captured British ammo, and trying to convert it to a non-rimmed cartridge would require some significant changes that might mean it couldn't be made on the same production lines.I'm not talking about the LMG role. I'm talking about the MMG role, as an alternative to the Breda 37 (which weighted a whopping 19.4kg and was generally a PoS).
This is true, but part of me thinks 8mm Breda is really cool.Ah, in that case that would make sense, but at that point they might as well just use the 7.7mm, as you could use captured British ammo, and trying to convert it to a non-rimmed cartridge would require some significant changes that might mean it couldn't be made on the same production lines.