I'm starting a thread about the Philippines from 1868 to the last years of the 19th century (and possibly 20th century). I'm now writing my prologue in a notebook, and possibly typing it later, if not tommorrow.
Oops, I'm just starting my thread. But it's still OK.So what is the PoD for this TL?
Oops, I'm just starting my thread. But it's still OK.
IOTL, Spain ruled the Philippines from 1571 to 1898 (1571-1821, via Mexico and from 1821-98, from Madrid directly), when the Spaniards were defeated by the Americans in the Spanish-American War.
In the 1868 "La Gloriosa" revolution, the Madrid government appointed de la Torre as the Governor-General of the Philippine Islands, where he instituted reforms. The problem is that the Church (and their conservative supporters) opposed that, so he resigned in 1871.
Here in this TL, La Gloriosa was succesful and installed a new government and a new king (see "El Legado de la Gloriosa" by Milarqui), de la Torre will be reappointed as the Governor-General. In short, this TL spans from 1868 to the 1890s-early years of the 20th century.
I should say no. Self-government first in the 1890s, then I think of independence in 1920s or 1930s, or it depends on my future posts. Nevertheless, why not give me an adviceSo in this case Spain keeps the Philippines until say, 1941? Oh and you may want to keep Ramon Blanco around and to kill off Camillo Polavieja. One of my TLs had a surviving de la Torre and Blanco lead off a Spanish republican government-in-exile against the Carlists, so I can also give you advice on this TL as well.
I should say no. Self-government first in the 1890s, then I think of independence in 1920s or 1930s, or it depends on my future posts. Nevertheless, why not give me an advice
Yeah, the main issues will be the secularization and democratization, but because Spain in this TL is under a new dynasty, things are got easier.The Ilustrados would make a good set of ruling class, but the main issue will be secularization and the entrenched power of the hacienda landowners. The earliest year the Philippines can acquire independence will be the 1920s. Barring that, would Spain still have Franco as the Caudillo or would that be butterflied away?
"It was held yesterday 29 September) in the Plaza (de Sta. Potenciana). People from the other parts of the Province (of Manila), ordinary people as well as their gobernadorcillos went there. They shouted "¡Viva!" in acclamation to the Government, to the Regent (Serrano y Domínguez), to the Constitution and to me, to which I replied "¡Viva España, madre natural de las Islas Filipinas!
It was followed by a student laying another wrath, then followed by some gobernadorcillos. The crowd was surprised by the gesture.A Simón de Anda y Salazar, desde los sacerdotes seculares de las Islas Filipinas
The letter was applauded by the protesters, but infuriated the already indignant Dominican friars."...I fight for true and long-lasting change for the islands. Your protests is necessary for that change; to hear your voices, your passion for reform.... Your fight is my fight..."
True story OTL. Well, there are other Philippine-centric TL's, but mostly they never continue, so I planned to update regularly, and thanks by the way for visiting (though I'm just a neophyte)Hella tight, Philippines TL. Never seen this before, usually the islands just get handed from one colonial master to the next.
Oh, thank you, I really appreciated it; I'm still writing some of the future events on a notebook, but this is confirmed: NO REVOLUTIONARIES; instead, they will become Nationalists, demanding independence for the nation.Great PoD. With that, the revolutionaries would never rise. You also need to squash the hacienderos and distribute the excess lands of the church and theirs. That way you could maximize local support for the governorship of the island.
Another one, Mariano H. del Pilar became very good friends with fellow revolutionary Sun Yat-Sen. Further support may strengthen the two nations in the future.
Oh, thank you, I really appreciated it; I'm still writing some of the future events on a notebook, but this is confirmed: NO REVOLUTIONARIES; instead, they will become Nationalists, demanding independence for the nation.
Marcelo H. del Pilar meeting with Dr. Sun?
Sorry mate, it was a wrong person that I have referred! My ailing memory.
Actually, it was Mariano Ponce who bought and secured support from the Japanese government and merchants for the independence of the Philippines with the help of Sun-Yat Sen. Volunteer troops, and lots of rifles and ammunition are scheduled to be shipped to the Philippines in two stages. First by the Nunobiki-maru, next by an unknown ship (disregarding enemy navies).
Unfortunately, the Nunobiki-maru (or naru?) was sunk in a typhoon off the coast of Taiwan. Disgruntled by that event and the rebellion is seemingly over, the second ship (filled with supplies) was sent to Sun-Yat Sen for goodwill and support.
I forgot the title of the book, because I only read it in a public library. I believe I have read that fact before on the Internet also.
That was from the Internet.
...I apologized that I replied to your letter; it was a very busy two months related to the proclamation of our new King, Leopoldo de Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. And there's the General Elections last 18th of February.
...The President (Serrano) and me are sadden by your decision to resign from the post of the Governor-General. If that's your decision, we respected it, as long as you followed your heart. You've done your job in a very good way.