Federated Kingdom of North America

csa945 said:
Why did this happen?

Many cities (i.e. NYC, Chicago, San Francisco) have threatned to leave if the can't become states. I thought it'd be interesting, if, in real, one did secede, and last, for at least a year.
 
Mikey said:
Why would Britain sell of their empire to an upstart, rebellious colony?

As I said, Tobago wasn't purchased until New England and Britain signed an eternal alliance, and New England assisted Great britain in the War of 1812.
 
Perhaps it was part of the Eternal Alliance deal.. Though even that seems unlikely. I'd say just remove the British-King-As-Venezualan-Monarch deal alltogether.
 
OK...as in that was an inside joke between me and my friends that Britain would rule Venezuela, Remove Queen Elizabeth being MOnarch of Venezuela, and have them invite Emperor Pedro II to be King, after he is kicked out of Brazil....
 
Aussey said:
as in that was an inside joke between me and my friends that Britain would rule Venezuela,

Any more inside jokes you'd like to tell us about?

No offense, but it seems like a lot of the stuff that happens in your TLs happens because you think that they'd be cool and then try figure out ways to justify them after the fact, even if they don't relate to the POD at all, not because you've evaluated what would actually have been plausible.
 
Hm, why would Greenland be divided up? I don't even see why Britain would want it, but even so, why divide it up between Canada and Vancouver? It's just filled with ice, Inuit, and a few Danish colonists (Who I believe mostly reside in the south, for obvious reasons)
 
csa945 said:
Any more inside jokes you'd like to tell us about?

No offense, but it seems like a lot of the stuff that happens in your TLs happens because you think that they'd be cool and then try figure out ways to justify them after the fact, even if they don't relate to the POD at all, not because you've evaluated what would actually have been plausible.

SHEESH!!!Ok, no that would be the only joke. But as for you basiclly say I make up sh!t, and then make up stupid reasons later is WAY out of line. I've throughly thought this over. And if you call over 30 pages of written maps, and timelines, before I searched for AH sites to publish them on, just something I'D think is cool? Then you're badly mistaken my friend.
 
Britain had nothing to do with it actually. I didn't post it, but Denmark offered to sell Greenland, after Vancover and Canada became completely independnt. But as for reasons, probably mainly because they needed a place to relocate animals, while they drill for oil in Yukon and Baffin Is.
 
Aussey said:
OK...as in that was an inside joke between me and my friends that Britain would rule Venezuela, Remove Queen Elizabeth being MOnarch of Venezuela, and have them invite Emperor Pedro II to be King, after he is kicked out of Brazil....

Which was in the late 19th Cenutry.

If you want a Venezulan monarchy, have a prominent leader of the War of Venezluan Independence become king, have Venezula and the rest of New Grenada accept an Albany Plan-style, or a Spanish aristocraft become king of New Grenada.

Aussey said:
SHEESH!!!Ok, no that would be the only joke. But as for you basiclly say I make up sh!t, and then make up stupid reasons later is WAY out of line. I've throughly thought this over. And if you call over 30 pages of written maps, and timelines, before I searched for AH sites to publish them on, just something I'D think is cool? Then you're badly mistaken my friend.

I'm sorry if I offended you. It sure is a nice ATL, even though it is a tad on the inplaussable side.
 
Mikey said:
Which was in the late 19th Cenutry.

If you want a Venezulan monarchy, have a prominent leader of the War of Venezluan Independence become king, have Venezula and the rest of New Grenada accept an Albany Plan-style, or a Spanish aristocraft become king of New Grenada.



I'm sorry if I offended you. It sure is a nice ATL, even though it is a tad on the inplaussable side.

Thank you, and I guess a few things were a bit far fetched. So, if Venezuela declares independence, rejects joining Grand Columbia, forms the 'Empire of Nuevo Granada.' They invite the King of Spains sister, lets name her Isabella (common name for SPanish royals) make her 'Empress Isabella I.' history goes on. Current in 2005, is Emperor Ferdinand IV of Nuevo Granada.

*However this Nuevo (New) Granada is not what Spains New Granada was. It is present day Venezuela, Guniea, Suriname, and French Guyana. Never have the French and Dutch their, make it all British South America. Brits surrender it to Nuevo Granada, because of lack of military (fighting Dutch in New Holland) and lack on interest. :)
 
You know, Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth of Christ, and Mary is the only woman named in the Koran. So a vision of her wouldn't necessarily convicne them to convert to Christianity. It would probably strengthen their faith in Islam.
 
That would be depending on what their dream said. Indeed, since she is the only woman, her telling them Jesus died, and rose, and is God's son would cause them to convert, though they could make their own 'religion' with orthodox beliefs, while not admitting defeat and calling themselves 'christian.'
 
Aussey said:
SHEESH!!!Ok, no that would be the only joke. But as for you basiclly say I make up sh!t, and then make up stupid reasons later is WAY out of line. I've throughly thought this over. And if you call over 30 pages of written maps, and timelines, before I searched for AH sites to publish them on, just something I'D think is cool? Then you're badly mistaken my friend.

I'm sorry, man. Like I said, no offense, but it just seems like you have a lot of stuff that has a tenuous connection, if any at all, to your POD.
 
Until someone invents a vehicle that can travel in "Superspace", then all alternate timelines are implaussible(spelling?). Some are just more plaussible then others.
 
Yeah. Its easy to say that some of this stuff is silly (which is my opinion, no offense), but the butterfly effect and, to an even large degree, quantum physics, says anything really is possible. So, once you get far away enough from the POD, you can pretty much do whatever you want.

Of course, more people will buy into it, if it sounds reasonable. :)
 
Well, today I'll start typing New England's history, based on the plausible(sp?) facts of the timeline. If therea anything that doesn't seem could happen, just write it down, before I make the history. That'll help a whole lot. Thanks!
 
Aussey said:
Well, today I'll start typing New England's history, based on the plausible(sp?) facts of the timeline. If therea anything that doesn't seem could happen, just write it down, before I make the history. That'll help a whole lot. Thanks!

I'm sorry for insulting you earlier. I would like to help you imprive your TL. The things that are, imho, the most improbable, as they stand now, are the Christianization of Persia and the temporary independence of Chicago. The second one could be plausible if you would just give a reason, specifically, as to why the city would secede. More than just this:

Aussey said:
Many cities (i.e. NYC, Chicago, San Francisco) have threatned to leave if the can't become states. I thought it'd be interesting, if, in real, one did secede, and last, for at least a year.

As for Christianizing Persia, I don't think that there is any way that you could make that plausible, and it doesn't seem to be inherently necessary to your TL about a monarchy in NE. Yes people have (or at least claim to have had) visions of the Virgin Mary throughout history, but the only time a non-Christian nation became Christian as the result of a vision was when Constantine converted the Roman Empire to Christianity after he saw (or claimed to see) a giant cross before a battle. And there were plenty of reasons for him to convert to Christianity even if he didn't see what he said he did -- though I can't think of any of them now. The chances are extremely slim that another country would become Christian for these reasons, and the formation of an indpendent monarchy in New England would not influence this. I am typically prone to think that if the POD (or an event that results from it) does not affect an event, that the said event will transpire in the same manner as it did in OTL Also, I may be wrong, but most people who have experienced such visions of Mary were already Catholic in the first place.

As for Persia becoming a "European Power" even if they did become Christian somehow (which wouldn't have been as big a deal by that point in history; it was more about how secular the country was) they wouldn't have been anything near "Great Power" status. They'd have been a third- or fourth-rate power more like Portugal or Spain in the 19th century of OTL.
 
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