Fear, Loathing and Gumbo on the Campaign Trail '72

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Drew, Feb 28, 2010.

  1. vultan Defying Gravity

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    Yeah, I'd thought that too. Maybe a generic picture of some politico from that period (maybe not even necessarily American) could be chosen.
     
  2. TheBerlinguer New-school baby-eater

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    It may be because Galtieri is originally an Italian surname, but when I try to picture him I always start thinking at a high-level hotel-keeper from Liguria (Italy's Montana :D). After all, why not?

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  3. Plumber جعل أميركا أكبر مرة أخرى

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    Thanks, I'm proud of that one particularly. :)

    They have a policy of including candidates who broke 5% (Henry Wallace is excluded from 1948, even though he got more attention than Eugene Debs in 1912), so Galtieri qualifies (he also go one faithless electoral vote). It was ultimately the lack of a picture that drove him out.
     
  4. Makemakean Linguistic Neoliberal

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    So, I finally did find this timeline, and I am still in the process of getting my way through it. I've admittedly just started (read up to Gavin's taking of the oath) but I've also jumped around a little to see what was true of what I had heard, and...

    Oh, Gods... :eek:

    This may very well be the finest timeline I have come across on the forum... I can only ever think of Ad Astra Per Aspera as coming close in awesomeness...
     
  5. Stolengood Pirandello's "Man with a Derby on His Cock(rel)" Banned

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    The length, though, is daunting. Made me give up a little after where you are, when I realized I could never plausibly catch up. :(
     
  6. Plumber جعل أميركا أكبر مرة أخرى

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    ¡Sí, se puede!
     
  7. Stolengood Pirandello's "Man with a Derby on His Cock(rel)" Banned

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    ¡No, esta longitud es una mierda! ¡Dame algo más corto!
     
  8. Archibald space jockey !

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    Best way of enjoying that - monster - TL: use the search function (I'm talking about the Pdf !) with key words (try Thatcher; NASA; Rhodesia; lesser Mao)
    It works well.
     
  9. Knight Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Been reading this for the last week. Great timeline :) Just a couple of continuity errors I've spotted. Is Patty Hearst alive or dead?


    And who really killed Major Houlihan?

     
  10. Drew Well-Known Member

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    IITL: Patti Hearst was killed in 1974. The mistake was an oblique reference to OTL President Jimmy Carter commutting her sentence. Not hard to imagine President Wallace not commuting the sentence of any radical that crossed his desk.

    Went through several editions, but it ended-up being a then little known actor named George W. Bush (known professionally as G.W. Bush) who went to a stellar career over the next decade.
     
  11. Knight Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for clearing that up, Drew :) Reading Rumsfeldia now.
     
  12. Plumber جعل أميركا أكبر مرة أخرى

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    List of Presidents of the United States, 1953-1985

    1953-1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower / Richard M. Nixon (Republican)
    1952: Adlai Stevenson II / John Sparkman (Democratic)
    1956: Adlai Stevenson II / Estes Kefauver (Democratic)
    1961-1963: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
    1960: Richard M. Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Republican)
    1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson / vacant (Democratic)
    1965-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic)
    1964: Barry Goldwater / William Miller (Republican)
    1969-1973: Richard M. Nixon / Spiro "Ted" Agnew (Republican)
    1968: Hubert H. Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George C. Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
    1973: Spiro "Ted" Agnew / Spiro "Ted" Agnew (Republican)
    1972: John J. McKeithen / Birch Bayh (Democratic), Richard M. Nixon / Spiro "Ted" Agnew (Republican), George C. Wallace / Lester Maddox (Independent), George McGovern / Pete McCloskey (Peace and Freedom)
    1973: John J. McKeithen / Spiro "Ted" Agnew (Democratic / Republican)
    1973: Spiro "Ted" Agnew / vacant, [John Ashbrook] (Republican)
    1973: Spiro "Ted" Agnew / vacant (Republican)
    1973-1974: James M. Gavin / vacant (Independent)
    1974-1977: James M. Gavin / William Scranton (Independent / Republican)
    1977-1978: George C. Wallace / Nicholas deBelleville Katzenbach (Democratic)
    1976: Ronald Reagan / Charles Percy (Republican), George Carlin / Dick Gregory (Independent), Roger MacBride / David Bergland (Libertarian), Peter Camejo / Willie Mae Reid (Socialist Worker's)
    1978: Nicholas deBelleville Katzenbach / Nicholas deBelleville Katzenbach (Democratic)
    1978-1979: George C. Wallace / Nicholas deBelleville Katzenbach (Democratic)
    1979: George C. Wallace / vacant, [Dick Lamm] (Democratic)
    1979-1981: George C. Wallace / William Scranton (Democratic / Republican)
    1981: George C. Wallace / vacant (Democratic)
    1981-1985: Donald Rumsfeld / W. Jackson "Jack" Edwards (Republican)
    1980: Hugh Carey / Reubin Askew (Democratic), Ron Dellums / Ralph Nader (We The People), Ronald Galtieri / David Koch (Libertarian), various (Christian Values Movement), Sandy Koufax / various (Independent)

    Part of this after after December 21, 1979 is missing, which you probably missed because January 1-9, 1979 was updated twice.

    Do you have a word document of everything, by chance? I can't convert a PDF into word on this computer.
     
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  13. Kovalenko Kova

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    Has anyone perchance gathered all the text of this TL in one place? It would make a good addition to the Finished Timelines and Scenarios forum.
     
  14. Archibald space jockey !

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    I have it as a word file, but a) it's Drew decision and b) it is just giganormous (2000 pages+)
     
  15. Swiffness Black Nationalist

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    ROFL @ the Black Liberation Army demands. Always thought they were cooler than the Panthers. :D

    if anyone can hook me up with a PDF of this TL before my flight tomorrow, I WILL MARRY YOU ;___;
     
  16. Archibald space jockey !

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    Check your mail "darling "
     
  17. red1 Well-Known Member

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    Is there a author only thread?
     
  18. clotifoth Member

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    Sorry to gravedig this, but I recently wrote a web scraper backed up this thread in HTML (and DokuWiki if you care about that) formats and it looks like some people might've be interested in that here! Unzip this file and start at 00001.htm and continue on from there. :) The .txt format files are DokuWiki format, don't need to bother with that unless you know what DokuWiki is. I've backed up the commentary between posts as well- I found that the commentaries were enlightening and gave Drew a good chance to flesh out the small stuff within the FLG setting, as well as containing fact checks and at least one instance of a retcon (re: Jack Nitze) that I don't think is every addressed by a main post. Thus, this preserves everything.

    Thanks for an absolutely fantastic TL Drew, it was a pleasure reading this during my college time. It really opened up my mind to the delicate realpolitik that dominated the 20th century- and how it could have gone much more poorly under much less tactful hands, and prompted me to take a college course on the history of the 1960's later on. You're a great author and you've done immaculate research for Fear, Loathing and Gumbo. Well done.
     
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